Let's talk about those statistics...

The harbinger stats have been released now and can be found here :

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2008293

So, what can i say about this?



Well this is not a surprise, it's popular just because it's simply the most reliable and reasonable choice remaining when everything else is useless or broken.



Oh, and you forgot to mention the fact that it's also because ES received a terrible nerf & CI came from "most played" to "completely buried". Combining this to the fact monster a now more life, marauder is now the only class still able to combine easily high HP, reliability and effectiveness.

When he can simply stand with 7k HP and even more sometime, most the others characters can hardly reach this, or need to play those horrible and unbearable hybrid ES/Life & Life/MoM.



Rectification :

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Patch 3.0.0 contained some of the ̶b̶r̶o̶a̶d̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶b̶a̶l̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ most severe changes we've ever made.

And when we take a closer look to the numbers, we can see that :

When 17.5% of the characters are Berserkers, there are 15 classes on 26 that are not even reaching a score of 3%. It's more than half the class that are completely abandonned by most of the players.

This really shows there is actually a "little" problem in the balance of this game.

Anyway, and as always :

-I'm pretty sure those stats mean the Berserker will be targeted and nerfed in a near future.

-Each time something works in this game, everything is made to just kill it.

-If we come to this point, my only remaining powerfull character will be dead.

-And no need to mention if this is about to happen, i'll just definitely quit this game.

I'm tired to invest to much time for things that are always f***** up.
It's like trying to build a glass castle in a frequent earthquake zone...

I think people would be more ok with them wrecking everything survivable if they ever mentioned toning down the ridiculous damage spikes. But they don't....

Lol do it fuck with berserker I'll just do slayer It's only like that because most ES users went to berserker basically.

1K balance team at it's finest.

nothing to talk about, after the latest nerf, players just ran to streamers looking up the new meta and followed it.

business as usual. and not avoidable if you got yourself streamers spoiling your game's intended weaknesses.


the problem is that those who faceroll the game with dark pact and berserker /vaal pact come here to complain that the game is too easy.

well, yes. in poe you can choose lately to have god mode or a challenging gameplay.

When reflecting on the stats, it is important to mention, that there is no pressure on anyone to select a certain build. Most people don't play for a world-first, or have any other reason to choose one class over any other. Yet still a significant amount of players choose Berserker/Necromancer.

If there would be pressure on selecting the most efficient build, there would probably be 95+% Berserkers/Necromancers in this game. Taking that into consideration, the balance issues become much more prominent.

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Lol do it fuck with berserker I'll just do slayer It's only like that because most ES users went to berserker basically.

1K balance team at it's finest.

they are shaking things up as planned. After nerfing berserker/removing vaal pact the end game will shift again, like you mentioned probably to slayer. Then after overkill leech it will move again.

That is the design goal.

It is also funny how Berseker was not buffed at all. Sure but even when ES was strong, Berseker who was at exactly the same state, was not even CLOSE to being the most popular class among HP users. Sure, Dark Pact works very well, but the player base also claims that Berseker is the best at ANYTHING and nothing comes close, except NOTHING changed with Berseker lately (Almost since the release of asceancies). The player base is bypolar.

Dark Pact with Berseker is very strong. Istant leech is very strong as well. Berseker in general is just the flavour of the league.

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astraph wrote:

Berseker in general is just the flavour of the league.

No its not. Its the logical consequence that many players did see coming right after the patch notes came up.

2.6 meta in a nutshell:
Stack as much ES as you can and add VP = win

3.0 meta in a nutshell:
Stack as much life as you can and VP = win

Marauder gets easy access to tons of life.
Berserker gets free leech (even mana leech which is an issue for all self casters).
100% predictable. Absolutely no surprise here.


GGGs forced metashift is a bad joke. Thats all it is.
So next metashift in 3.1 will most likely delete Berserker and maybe VP (highly doubt they will touch VP though).

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Orbaal wrote:

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astraph wrote:

Berseker in general is just the flavour of the league.

No its not. Its the logical consequence that many players did see coming right after the patch notes came up.

2.6 meta in a nutshell:
Stack as much ES as you can and add VP = win

3.0 meta in a nutshell:
Stack as much life as you can and VP = win

Marauder gets easy access to tons of life.
Berserker gets free leech (even mana leech which is an issue for all self casters).
100% predictable. Absolutely no surprise here.


GGGs forced metashift is a bad joke. Thats all it is.
So next metashift in 3.1 will most likely delete Berserker and maybe VP (highly doubt they will touch VP though).

So how come in past leagues berseker was not even close to being the most popular choice among HP builds? Keep in mind he was not buffed at all.

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astraph wrote:

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Orbaal wrote:

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astraph wrote:

Berseker in general is just the flavour of the league.

No its not. Its the logical consequence that many players did see coming right after the patch notes came up.

2.6 meta in a nutshell:
Stack as much ES as you can and add VP = win

3.0 meta in a nutshell:
Stack as much life as you can and VP = win

Marauder gets easy access to tons of life.
Berserker gets free leech (even mana leech which is an issue for all self casters).
100% predictable. Absolutely no surprise here.


GGGs forced metashift is a bad joke. Thats all it is.
So next metashift in 3.1 will most likely delete Berserker and maybe VP (highly doubt they will touch VP though).

So how come in past leagues berseker was not even close to being the most popular choice among HP builds? Keep in mind he was not buffed at all.

Because ES + VP existed.
If you wanted that playstyle, ES was way superior to life builds.
Even if you started out as duelist - which is as disgusting as it is true.

Now ES got deleted and everyone who liked that playstyle has to adapt.
Easiest way to do it: Stack life, leech and VP.
Sole question remaining: Which ascendancy class is most effective.

Try to find a more effective one than Berserker and keep in mind, that most of the ES players used to be spellcasters in 2.6
So you need to take care of mana sustain as well and Berserker does that with Zero investment.