[3.0] Kurii's Fallacy - Tanky Crit Dark Pact Zerker [Deathless Shaper & Uber Atziri / Clear Speed]

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Kurii2 wrote:


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philophil wrote:
Could u please optimize ur build ......

Here's the POB u should show at lvl 94 more life/dmg w/o any gear change only changed some node on the tree n its this same regen/AOE.

https://pastebin.com/u32nZ0yq

Yo!

When creating a build, there are other factors to consider other than obtaining the highest life and DPS totals in PoB.

Dropping Spell Critical Strike Chance for Cast Speed is a +0.5% DPS gain on paper; however, since we are reserving almost all of our mana, increasing our cast speed will cause Dark Pact to stagger thus resulting in a DPS loss. We also want as much Critical Strike Chance as we can get without sacrificing too much DPS because it allows our build to sufficiently life leech without Cloaked in Savagery and it activates Culling Strike from Marylene's Fallacy.

Dropping Method to the Madness for Throatseeker is actually a +0.09% DPS gain, however, I don't think that small of a gain is worth the loss of 12% Chaos Resistance.

Dropping 2 points from Evasion and Life for Life gives us an extra +44 life and slightly more damage, but I choose to increase my evasion by 1% instead to be able to better mitigate larger hits - as evasion is better in this regard than is armour due to the way armour damage reduction is scaled towards damage.



I can give u the fact that maybe u want that 12% Chaos res in favor of abit less dmg..... But when it come to evasion LMAO.

Look at ur tree n gear u don't scale evasion those are ur only evasion nodes. With my POB u have 25% chance to evade 3.2K n with ur tree 26% at 3.5K evasion. If u wold understand how evasion work u would know that at ur lvl of evasion its really useless.
Here's something to help u : https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Evasion

So 99% of the time more life will be better.

Also on the 20% crit chance node removal..... Really its a drama for u lol 1% crit chance. And pls don't tell me about ur mana management 5% cast speed u won't even notice it lol. That little swap is just more dmg.

Also i think u should rethink the entire evasion stuff. Unless u have 10K or more its pretty useless i wouldn't say its a layer of defense cuz at that lvl its nearly the same vs boss has if u had nothing + evasion only work vs attack so vs shaper more life is strictly better.
A day w/o dealing with stupid ppl is like....Never mind. Ill tell u if it ever happens
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philophil wrote:
I can give u the fact that maybe u want that 12% Chaos res in favor of abit less dmg..... But when it come to evasion LMAO.

Look at ur tree n gear u don't scale evasion those are ur only evasion nodes. With my POB u have 25% chance to evade 3.2K n with ur tree 26% at 3.5K evasion. If u wold understand how evasion work u would know that at ur lvl of evasion its really useless.
Here's something to help u : https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Evasion

So 99% of the time more life will be better.

Also on the 20% crit chance node removal..... Really its a drama for u lol 1% crit chance. And pls don't tell me about ur mana management 5% cast speed u won't even notice it lol. That little swap is just more dmg.

Also i think u should rethink the entire evasion stuff. Unless u have 10K or more its pretty useless i wouldn't say its a layer of defense cuz at that lvl its nearly the same vs boss has if u had nothing + evasion only work vs attack so vs shaper more life is strictly better.

Yo!

+44 total life is as insignificant as +1% evasion. It doesn't really matter which way you go. Either one can save your life, but unlikely. When you create your own Dark Pact Berserker, choose either path you want. Evasion isn't the main layer of defense in this build, but rather an extra layer on top of armor and life. We don't invest heavily into it.

Mana management is important because staggering is a DPS loss so it's actually not more damage.

We aren't optimizing the build towards Shaper, but rather it's a general purpose build meant to handle many situations that aren't PvP. The only thing evasion could potentially help against the Shaper is the teleport slam if you don't move out of the way in time. You can tank it, but not if it's a critical strike. This is where evasion is better than armor, but it's not the highlight of the build.

Your input is always welcome as well! I always listen to what others have to say, as I'm not the be-all end-all of information. :D
Dark Pact Crit Berserker - Guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2006227
vs Guardians and Shaper (5:16 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/LpjgfdJYvxg
vs Uber Atziri and her Guardians (5:30 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/AIobql2cD-I
Last edited by Kurii2 on Oct 24, 2017, 8:49:51 PM
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Kurii2 wrote:
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https://pastebin.com/gUFKY64f Could you take a look at my pastebin? I'm aware my jewel is bad atm, I'm left with 16 ex left to spend. There is only one neck on league atm and it's 40 ex :(

Sorry for the long delay. I've been side-tracked recently. It seems like you've got your +1 curse amulet! Congrats! How is it working out for you so far?


much better thanks!(overpaid by 7 exalts for it) Having a few survival issues at the moment, my evade seems much lower than yours, also not sure what to upgrade next, i'm attempting to get a 30% crit/34% chaos ring but I'm new to crafting. I got the ring with just those 2 + the crafted 16% crit but havent had any luck with my exalts so far :/
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much better thanks!(overpaid by 7 exalts for it) Having a few survival issues at the moment, my evade seems much lower than yours, also not sure what to upgrade next, i'm attempting to get a 30% crit/34% chaos ring but I'm new to crafting. I got the ring with just those 2 + the crafted 16% crit but havent had any luck with my exalts so far :/

Don't worry about evasion too much. It's just... there. What exactly are you dying to? At this point, you're definitely strong enough to take on Shaper as long as you learn his fight mechanics.

Your next upgrade should be 21/20 Dark Pact gem, followed by 21/20 Assassin's Mark. Then continue with the other gems. Your rings should be good enough until you finish upgrading your gems.
Dark Pact Crit Berserker - Guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2006227
vs Guardians and Shaper (5:16 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/LpjgfdJYvxg
vs Uber Atziri and her Guardians (5:30 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/AIobql2cD-I
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Kurii2 wrote:
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much better thanks!(overpaid by 7 exalts for it) Having a few survival issues at the moment, my evade seems much lower than yours, also not sure what to upgrade next, i'm attempting to get a 30% crit/34% chaos ring but I'm new to crafting. I got the ring with just those 2 + the crafted 16% crit but havent had any luck with my exalts so far :/

Don't worry about evasion too much. It's just... there. What exactly are you dying to? At this point, you're definitely strong enough to take on Shaper as long as you learn his fight mechanics.

Your next upgrade should be 21/20 Dark Pact gem, followed by 21/20 Assassin's Mark. Then continue with the other gems. Your rings should be good enough until you finish upgrading your gems.


minotaur the times I've tried and died once to hydra, can I not just tank the shaper like you did? What would I need to do that?

Ok! That's around 3 exalts so should have that soon. bit gutted with my ring luck so far but hopefully I can learn to craft a good one after I get those gems. thanks for the help!
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Kurii2 wrote:
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much better thanks!(overpaid by 7 exalts for it) Having a few survival issues at the moment, my evade seems much lower than yours, also not sure what to upgrade next, i'm attempting to get a 30% crit/34% chaos ring but I'm new to crafting. I got the ring with just those 2 + the crafted 16% crit but havent had any luck with my exalts so far :/

Don't worry about evasion too much. It's just... there. What exactly are you dying to? At this point, you're definitely strong enough to take on Shaper as long as you learn his fight mechanics.

Your next upgrade should be 21/20 Dark Pact gem, followed by 21/20 Assassin's Mark. Then continue with the other gems. Your rings should be good enough until you finish upgrading your gems.


minotaur the times I've tried and died once to hydra, can I not just tank the shaper like you did? What would I need to do that?

Ok! That's around 3 exalts so should have that soon. bit gutted with my ring luck so far but hopefully I can learn to craft a good one after I get those gems. thanks for the help!


Tanking Shaper depends on your defenses and hope he doesn't crit. Having over 7.7k HP with max fire and cold resistances is recommended if you just want to sit there and facetank. Be ready to hit your instant flask when you sit in his beam just in case you don't crit him. It's always best to play safe and get a feel for the fight especially if it's your first time.
Dark Pact Crit Berserker - Guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2006227
vs Guardians and Shaper (5:16 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/LpjgfdJYvxg
vs Uber Atziri and her Guardians (5:30 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/AIobql2cD-I
Last edited by Kurii2 on Oct 25, 2017, 6:44:09 PM
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Dark Pact Crit Berserker - Guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2006227
vs Guardians and Shaper (5:16 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/LpjgfdJYvxg
vs Uber Atziri and her Guardians (5:30 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/AIobql2cD-I
Last edited by Kurii2 on Oct 25, 2017, 7:01:35 PM
Awsome!! Thank you very much.

I have so far corrupted about 50 amulets with no luck yet.

Now i can work on the 6L
Leveled a zerker yday with Sunder til 70 on Blood Aqueducts, swapped to DP at 70 and finished A9/A10, still progressing and working with what i had on bank, except the gems, feels pretty tanky and dps is alright considering i'm still 74 with poop gear, no uber, 5L etc, did a few red maps for funs and was pretty easy.

Not sure if ima go +1 Fallacy's and don't feel like using Doedre's ring, using only Assassin's Mark for now, might try to adapt the build with Whispers of Doom or try to find a +1 decent rare, idk yet.

Also replaced Cont. Destruction for Inc. Crit and using mostly Mutewind when mapping for those sweet HoI explosions lul, pretty smooth so far

Current setup:
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Update setup level 83:


6.7k hp, surprised i didn't die yet considering i drop pretty low all the time, with a few more levels and Enfeeble + Rumi it should get reaaaally tanky. Want to run uber but gateway is fucked, constant 200-300ms no bueno
Got lucky with the Chest, 40jew to 6S and 300fusing to 6L, first 6l as well.
Last edited by Phosphenez on Oct 27, 2017, 4:09:59 PM
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Phosphenez wrote:
Leveled a zerker yday with Sunder til 70 on Blood Aqueducts, swapped to DP at 70 and finished A9/A10, still progressing and working with what i had on bank, except the gems, feels pretty tanky and dps is alright considering i'm still 74 with poop gear, no uber, 5L etc, did a few red maps for funs and was pretty easy.

Not sure if ima go +1 Fallacy's and don't feel like using Doedre's ring, using only Assassin's Mark for now, might try to adapt the build with Whispers of Doom or try to find a +1 decent rare, idk yet.

Also replaced Cont. Destruction for Inc. Crit and using mostly Mutewind when mapping for those sweet HoI explosions lul, pretty smooth so far

Current setup:
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Update setup level 83:


6.7k hp, surprised i didn't die yet considering i drop pretty low all the time, with a few more levels and Enfeeble + Rumi it should get reaaaally tanky. Want to run uber but gateway is fucked, constant 200-300ms no bueno
Got lucky with the Chest, 40jew to 6S and 300fusing to 6L, first 6l as well.


I'm glad it's working out for you.

Let me know what you decide to do to get your second curse. Whispers of Doom is plausible. Getting a decent rare amulet with +1 curse will be pretty expensive.

That's a good point for mapping. Criticals guarantee freezing, so it makes sense when you are still building up your DPS.

Congrats on the 6L. I've never gotten one through fusing before since I have rotten luck.

Having such a high latency while trying to maneuver through lab traps is not a good time.
Dark Pact Crit Berserker - Guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2006227
vs Guardians and Shaper (5:16 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/LpjgfdJYvxg
vs Uber Atziri and her Guardians (5:30 - Deathless) - https://youtu.be/AIobql2cD-I

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