[3.4] ELE CLAW INQUISITOR | Farm Shaper on 3Link! + UberElder, UberAtziri | very Budget friendly!

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blainicus wrote:

Where should I get mana leech early in maps?

In early maps you should have the claw nodes for mana leech. At least if you did not take all the points away from the main path. If not, just take one small 0.4% mana leech node in the bottom right corner of the tree and unspec it when you get the claw leech nodes.

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Nooxylol wrote:

I just saw the update to swap BF for MS. Although I was wondering if the swap from Single target gems, to aoe gems are correct after your update?

Switch Inc. AoE to Ele focus and Ancestral Call to Elemental Damage with Attacks for single target.


EDIT: Too late :D

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Icaros wrote:

Been leveling as this. Naturally with Ancestral Call, I tested out the other options and MS seemed like the obvious choice for inquis. It seems nice in some scenarios, but in others VERY inconsistent. Since the balls do most of the damage, fast moving single targets can be really annoying (yes I'm running wildfires). I think running MultiStrike with Ancestral Call (both LESS damage) might be too much hit on damage at low levels, but mana is also an issue.

Luckily I bought a tabula from a guildie, so I've been testing options. Feeling like I may swap back to sunder or BF until I can use gear that supports MS. If you try molten and it isn't feeling right, no harm in changing back ;)

My suggestion with the feedback regarding changing the skill is to take a look at Neversink's Bow build guide. He details the skill choices and the strengths of each.

Also a thought - would switching to the consecrate passives be more beneficial at higher level vs Vaal Pact? Damage wise, it seems about the same (on consecrated ground), but with the added utility of regen and immunity to elemental status. Gifts from above would make consecrate pretty much 100% uptime. Could make running blood rage and labbing a lot more comfortable.

Thanks for the feedback. The "inconsistency" of Molten Strike pretty much fades away after youre picking up a really fast weapon (1.9) together with lvl20 Multistrike. The Direkt hits are quite alot of dmg on their own, but the insane spam of projectiles pretty always hits even rather fast targets. Take a look at my videos from t16 maps if you dont believe me.

I dont really see any disadvantage of molten strike other than it trivilizes the game to an extent where nothing is any challange anymore and you get bored with PoE :)

Also I would never take any other ascendecies. None of the ground effect ones come anywhere close the the benefits of the recommended ones. Immunity to ailments is extremly inconsistent cause the spawn of the ground effects is most of the time lagging behind your character. At high attack speed you zip trough maps so faster, that it just cant keep up with your speed. The regen effects dont work with vaal pact wich is still amazing (check my Video where I tank the shaper beam with on a 3 Link).

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GornoDD wrote:

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Icaros wrote:

Been leveling as this. Naturally with Ancestral Call, I tested out the other options and MS seemed like the obvious choice for inquis. It seems nice in some scenarios, but in others VERY inconsistent. Since the balls do most of the damage, fast moving single targets can be really annoying (yes I'm running wildfires). I think running MultiStrike with Ancestral Call (both LESS damage) might be too much hit on damage at low levels, but mana is also an issue.

Luckily I bought a tabula from a guildie, so I've been testing options. Feeling like I may swap back to sunder or BF until I can use gear that supports MS. If you try molten and it isn't feeling right, no harm in changing back ;)

My suggestion with the feedback regarding changing the skill is to take a look at Neversink's Bow build guide. He details the skill choices and the strengths of each.

Also a thought - would switching to the consecrate passives be more beneficial at higher level vs Vaal Pact? Damage wise, it seems about the same (on consecrated ground), but with the added utility of regen and immunity to elemental status. Gifts from above would make consecrate pretty much 100% uptime. Could make running blood rage and labbing a lot more comfortable.

Thanks for the feedback. The "inconsistency" of Molten Strike pretty much fades away after youre picking up a really fast weapon (1.9) together with lvl20 Multistrike. The Direkt hits are quite alot of dmg on their own, but the insane spam of projectiles pretty always hits even rather fast targets. Take a look at my videos from t16 maps if you dont believe me.

I dont really see any disadvantage of molten strike other than it trivilizes the game to an extent where nothing is any challange anymore and you get bored with PoE :)

Also I would never take any other ascendecies. None of the ground effect ones come anywhere close the the benefits of the recommended ones. Immunity to ailments is extremly inconsistent cause the spawn of the ground effects is most of the time lagging behind your character. At high attack speed you zip trough maps so faster, that it just cant keep up with your speed. The regen effects dont work with vaal pact wich is still amazing (check my Video where I tank the shaper beam with on a 3 Link).

Pretty much this. After having played a Sprinkler MS build last league I was 100% convinced they would nerf Molten Strike. There just was nothing the build could not do, easily. It was super OP.

Then I read the patch nodes: No nerfs directly to MS and Ancestral Call confirmed. Now the one "bad" thing of Molten Strike, the low clearspeed, gets so much faster because pretty much always the amount of balls and the area they drop in gets trippled while clearing maps.

Looking forward to min-maxing the hell out of this one. Also, is the leech good enough for Uber Lab if I unspec Vaal Pact? I assume having seen you facetank the shaper beam with VP that Uber Lab should be ok without it. I just hate doing Uber Lab without regen :D

I for one really appreciate the switch to Molten Strike.

As you say, the BF was good but MS is just insane, better across all aspects and I find it more enjoyable.

Appreciate your work.

[20/20] Molten Strike
[20/20] Elemental Damage with Attacks Support/Ancestral Call Support
[21/20] Added Lightning Damage Support - pref level 21
[20/20] Multistrike Support
[21/20] Elemental Focus/Increased Area of Effect Support
[20/20] Concentrated Effect Support

This is the main setup. You Swap "Ele Focus" for "Increased Area" and "Ancestral Call" for "Ele Dmg with Attacks" for Single Target.


You would use Increased AOE in the single target setup?

Also the cheapest Lycosidae is more than 100 chaos right now. I know its a new league but damn... is there a cheaper alternative?

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Nooxylol wrote:

Also the cheapest Lycosidae is more than 100 chaos right now. I know its a new league but damn... is there a cheaper alternative?

Vagan claw (caps at ivlv 59 though), or a few good accuracy rolls on your gear.
I've been running ornament of the east, but its low damage won't even get you into maps.

Lol I followed this building thinking I'd be able to start a league with it. Since I Started a bit late that now has me thinking i'll have to reroll due to the price.... Lol

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Nooxylol wrote:

[20/20] Molten Strike
[20/20] Elemental Damage with Attacks Support/Ancestral Call Support
[21/20] Added Lightning Damage Support - pref level 21
[20/20] Multistrike Support
[21/20] Elemental Focus/Increased Area of Effect Support
[20/20] Concentrated Effect Support

This is the main setup. You Swap "Ele Focus" for "Increased Area" and "Ancestral Call" for "Ele Dmg with Attacks" for Single Target.


You would use Increased AOE in the single target setup?

Also the cheapest Lycosidae is more than 100 chaos right now. I know its a new league but damn... is there a cheaper alternative?

Yes, the list is right, but the wording after it is wrong.

And the other option is to get enough accuracy on gear and tree to get 90%+ chance to hit. Should be easy to do for the first levels in maps, but after T10 you would need a ton of accuracy from somewhere to keep your chance to hit up, that is where Lycosidae becomes more important.

But should be able to easily farm the 100c you need for Lycosidae, we get a good amount of resists from the tree, so you can focus a bit more on accuracy on rings, amulet and gloves until you get the shield.



At OP: I tried to find points to save to get another jewel slot because of how absolutely insane the Abyss jewels are. Only found the option to not take "Berserking". Would lose 18% increased attack speed. But could get a slot with the 3 points and use a jewel like this:

5% increased attack speed
8% increased Attack Speed if you've dealt a Critical Strike Recently
Adds 22 to 38 Fire Damage to Claw Attacks
Adds 4 to 60 Lightning Damage to Claw Attacks

Flat ele. damage is huge for a build like this and per affix on a jewel we can get around 30 avg. ele damage. So even if we don't get 13% inc. attack speed on the jewel, there are alternatives that would also easily give us more dps than Berserker. Crit. multi is also possible.

Also great for leveling! This level 30 jewel just pretty much doubled my DPS I had with a Brightbeak:

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Nooxylol wrote:

Lol I followed this building thinking I'd be able to start a league with it. Since I Started a bit late that now has me thinking i'll have to reroll due to the price.... Lol

Im always a bit baffled how people complain about the price of lycosidae and how it makes the build non-budget and and even non-playable.

Even if the final build becomes 100c more expensive. It still is extremly budget friendly considering its capability to annihialte all the games content with pretty much a 4L or 5L and relatively bad gear.

Do you even realize that there are many builds out there that actually have to stack accuracy? Bridging the bugdet-gap to afford the shield is nothing in comparison to aquiring high-end rings/amulets that have ALL the good stats and accurcay on them as well. Were talking multi-ex diffrences here! The shield saves you so much total cost that its own price of around 100c pales in comparison.

Lycosidae is now 120c+....

How are you baffled by that? I love how you claim your baffled and then follow up with a reason as to why "even though its 120c, its still worth it and efficient". I didnt say the build was crap or inefficient?

A 100+c wall sort of compromises the builds claim to be very budget friendly.... At least for now.
Especially when you say in the guide that Lycosidae is the REASON that the build IS so budget friendly? That makes no sense. I understand that 100c isn't THAT hard to get... but if you look at the millions of other " budget " friendly builds on this site theres like a 95% chance that they wont be behind a 120c wall.