Energy Shield and Life

"who needs high ES pool?" - Headhunter
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Toliman wrote:
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TenTonBlue wrote:

Ive been here since 2012, so i guess that would make me a long time player right? I love the change, so clearly your assumption is wrong, go away doomsayer.

I suppose you also like how blizzard balances games?
Because thats about their level.

No the balance mania in games began bad and ends catastrophically. There are many devs who feel the need to frankly just fuck their game until its broken in the name of balance and its happening right here and now with PoE.


educate yourself

Not quite 25k ES, but I can't find the video I saw recently with 25k in Legacy playing solo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWt5PlHSy30&t=42s

And even lower ES facetanking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24v4plYy27Y&feature=youtu.be

Easy and cheap 10k ES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQd11LoVAvw

-Credit to Deadseeds
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TenTonBlue wrote:
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Toliman wrote:
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TenTonBlue wrote:

Ive been here since 2012, so i guess that would make me a long time player right? I love the change, so clearly your assumption is wrong, go away doomsayer.

I suppose you also like how blizzard balances games?
Because thats about their level.

No the balance mania in games began bad and ends catastrophically. There are many devs who feel the need to frankly just fuck their game until its broken in the name of balance and its happening right here and now with PoE.


educate yourself

Not quite 25k ES, but I can't find the video I saw recently with 25k in Legacy playing solo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWt5PlHSy30&t=42s

And even lower ES facetanking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24v4plYy27Y&feature=youtu.be

Easy and cheap 10k ES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQd11LoVAvw

-Credit to Deadseeds


so you saw something on reddit and that make you think ci is op?
if someone make a video about how op life build is would you be convinced too?
fucking sheep
I thought that they make VP something like Acro with less ES multi. Or may be 50% leech efficiency. Full remove of game mechanic is a bad way. For example, new EB is ok, but old EB was ok too, so why don't we have em both? Nerfed Cloak of defiance is garbage with new EB. Without EB it is garbage too cause of new mana nodes. Only legacy version is ok. But I played legacy CoD with hierophant and died by mercilles Izaro with essences and conduits at level 76. Even with 25% mana restore from damage taken. No one-shots, but used all flasks and can't sustain without old EB regeneration. It was viable for builds like that. And now that builds are dead.

What we have with new ES nerf? SC glass cannons. ES without fast leech is a dead meat if we don't talk about Occultist or Guardian. Nerf to ES+VP is ok. But removing whole mechanic...What would you do after 8-9k hit? I played regen tanks and I confirm that after such strike if you can't use life potion you use log out. Regeneration is too slow for builds that don't use any defence but only ES. If you give ES-builds some uniques or notables with "Soul Strike" effect, then it will be ok may be. Or buff regeneration - it is good for sustain low damage hits, but against hard hits it is so much rippy.
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DarthPwn wrote:
I was super hyped for the beta and 3.0 launch but these changes are honestly terrible.

Yes, ES was way stronger than life and needed adjusting but this is totally overkill.

The real culprit for all of this is Vaal Pact and the insanity that is instant leech.
Vaal Pact should give you a massive multiplier for your leech rate instead of being completely instant.

If the proposed changes make it to 3.0 launch Kaom's Heart will go from a 2-3 exalt item to a 10 exalt item. Literally nobody will be playing ES builds unless they are doing low-life righteous fire.


Educate yourself

Not quite 25k ES, but I can't find the video I saw recently with 25k in Legacy playing solo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWt5PlHSy30&t=42s

And even lower ES facetanking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24v4plYy27Y&feature=youtu.be

Easy and cheap 10k ES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQd11LoVAvw

-Credit to Deadseeds
These are the kinds of bold and ambitious changes I had been awaiting for 3.0, and that will hopefully help restore some identity to CI and Energy Shield as a whole. I'm confident the numbers can be tweaked appropriately during beta, but the decision to remove the interaction between Energy Shield and Vaal Pact was long overdue in my opinion.
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look what happened to mjolner? t1 uniques exist for a reason
i dont see how invest more into the char makes you stronger is a problem, isnt that the idea of this game?
you invest more into es nodes, you get more es, you invest more into es gear, you get more es
you invest more into life gear, you get more life, you invest more into life nodes, oh shit you dont actually get that much
ggg completely missed the problem with life and went full retard with the nerf

About the Mjolnir nerf.I never defended it, and it was collateral from the Discharge/CoC nerfs because "servers couldn't handle it" (i still think XBone is, at least partly, at fault here but that's another thing and ima sound like a conspirancy theorist).

And i agree with what you say,the more you invest the more the returns should be.But when it came to ES (and with LL to a lesser degree), the investment needed was much less than for most life builds (one example is the amount of ES nodes and how the pathing to them is much more efficient).Do i think they overdid it with the ES nerfs?I honestly don't know, because there are many variables we don't know yet such as the Pantheon system and what buffs that might have for ES (Iirc they said that system is more defensively oriented).What i believe is that GGG basically wants to lower the "ceiling" to avoid further power creep, if they'll manage to balance this only time will tell.
Vaal Pact:

Please make this an option, not mandatory.

Very very few life builds can currently be played without Vaal Pact.

I personally despise the inability to regen life with Vaal Pact and would never take it if I had the option. Unfortunately, regardless of how many leech and leech per second nodes I take, it doesn't really seem to do the trick.

Bottom line: 0.4% life leech with Vaal Pact should not be better than 5-10 nodes of leech and leech per second.
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bhavv wrote:
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superjack010 wrote:
Finally! Thank god there's gonna be an actual challenge in the game. I bet ES will still be absurdly OP with occultist and regen. Quit your bitchin and learn a new tactic.


The game already is extremely challenging for anyone without perfect mirrored ES gears.

Maybe get off standard and try playing SSF.


Educate yourself

Easy and cheap 10k ES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQd11LoVAvw
This has to be the worst f'in idea ive seen incoming next diablo 3. Literally evety single fun game just has to be ruined by ridiculous nerfs. Us CI/low life players are actually able to take on end game and clear through content because we can afford the gear/we put in time and effort to generate enough currency to be overpowered. This just makes it unfair on the people who have spent years to min max their ES characters just to have all that time put to waste by a bunch of casuals QQing about ES is too OP.
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