My theory when we allow unfetterd Immigration

Lets face it, millennial aint worth a shit. Yes I'm one and it's debatable whether I'm worth a shit. I don't listen to anyone though I do show up on time so I guess only 50% worthless. Anyway - just a theory. I'd say about 50% of our workers are foreign born and they are the best.

PS Trumps a fool to build walls - this is one big area I disagree with Republicans. Adversity makes you stronger which why immigrants so tough and hard working. Simple evolution. Western Millennial is de-evolution. Thoughts?
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Aim_Deep wrote:
Thoughts?

Immigration into a welfare state is a complete disaster, a long-term catastrophe for the host country.

You are right in theory: immigration is a resource, when motivated people want to come into your country to participate in the workforce or even create new businesses. But when they immigrate just cause you have nice handouts (EU), they are a liability.

We (US & EU) already have a % of unemployed people (mostly entitled millenials), despite having a need for workers. Why is that? Because of welfare state. Natives don't want to do dirty jobs, because welfare pays more (for not doing anything). Now with importing workers, you still have to pay entitlements to the non-working native population, so the state is still going into red numbers. Some day you will have to pay pension to both: the useless millennials and the immigrants who were imported to replace useless millenials == a social ponzi scheme that will eventually collapse.

Immigration coming into EU in the recent years is almost completely useless: they are low skilled, low educated, unmotivated and ideologically hostile. You have to teach them everything from scratch (more state expenses) and even pay subventions to keep them employed, aka create fake jobs (at least Germany is doing that).

Why not just kick the native unemployed people off welfare instead? Force people into work. Fuck "human rights" & "liberalism", no work no food (that the motto commies adopted, btw, for all the "aspirant socialists" out there ;)
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Yes cheap manual workers with low pay are a wonder for Bankers and rich people.
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morbo wrote:


Why not just kick the native unemployed people off welfare instead? Force people into work. Fuck "human rights" & "liberalism", no work no food (that the motto commies adopted, btw, for all the "aspirant socialists" out there ;)


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Wage slavery is slowly but surely becoming impracticable for making a decent living. I give "the system" as it is another 20 years until it collapses or we substantially change the "work or die" mantra.
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morbo wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:
Thoughts?

Immigration into a welfare state is a complete disaster, a long-term catastrophe for the host country.

You are right in theory: immigration is a resource, when motivated people want to come into your country to participate in the workforce or even create new businesses. But when they immigrate just cause you have nice handouts (EU), they are a liability.

We (US & EU) already have a % of unemployed people (mostly entitled millenials), despite having a need for workers. Why is that? Because of welfare state. Natives don't want to do dirty jobs, because welfare pays more (for not doing anything). Now with importing workers, you still have to pay entitlements to the non-working native population, so the state is still going into red numbers. Some day you will have to pay pension to both: the useless millennials and the immigrants who were imported to replace useless millenials == a social ponzi scheme that will eventually collapse.

Immigration coming into EU in the recent years is almost completely useless: they are low skilled, low educated, unmotivated and ideologically hostile. You have to teach them everything from scratch (more state expenses) and even pay subventions to keep them employed, aka create fake jobs (at least Germany is doing that).

Why not just kick the native unemployed people off welfare instead? Force people into work. Fuck "human rights" & "liberalism", no work no food (that the motto commies adopted, btw, for all the "aspirant socialists" out there ;)


Without welfare people become homeless and die. Wtf are you on?
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sarahaustin wrote:


Without welfare people become homeless and die. Wtf are you on?


Natural selection, hohey.
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Xavderion wrote:
Wage slavery is slowly but surely becoming impracticable for making a decent living. I give "the system" as it is another 20 years until it collapses or we substantially change the "work or die" mantra.


People have been saying a version of this for over 200 years. :x

I agree with OP's premise but disagree on immigration. Throwing out idiots who want NO immigration (uneducated) and globablists who want no borders (faux educated), I think you've got reasonable people left who agree that the real decision left for us is 'who and how much?'.

Not all adversity (you mean diversity?) is created equal. We have the right, and our government has the duty, to vet those who come into the country. Some types of people we don't want because they have a criminal history. Others we may want for whatever reason the country deems prudent.
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sarahaustin wrote:
Without welfare people become homeless and die. Wtf are you on?

Not sure if even serious...

Outside of some small groups (disabled, injured war vets, very old..) people should not need any help from the state. The job of a state is to provide a climate where the economy can flourish, so that people will take care of themselves, without being dependent on the government.

The concept of welfare for everyone has created millions of lazy, complacent and entitled people, who demand that others pay for their shit. The welfare state is the major contributor to the degradation of western society (and future collapse). The state has become a replacement for fathers and whole families. Idiots can reproduce several times faster than smart hard-working people, because the state uses taxes to pay for the idiot's kids. In the worst cases the welfare state destroyed whole cultures (eg. blacks in USA).

Meanwhile the debt is piling up, which means that the state is wasting way more that it can afford. The clock is ticking for the socialist ponzi scheme and you will have the pleasure to see it collapse. If you want to see where the welfare state ends up eventually, then check out the leftist socialist Greece.

A major fuckup of western democracy is that two people, one who produces wealth and one who just leeches, have both the same voting rights. Stupid idea that would need to be corrected the next time we try democracy.
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Last edited by morbo on Apr 21, 2017, 11:51:32 AM
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morbo wrote:
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sarahaustin wrote:
Without welfare people become homeless and die. Wtf are you on?

Not sure if even serious...

Outside of some small groups (disabled, injured war vets, very old..) people should not need any help from the state. The job of a state is to provide a climate where the economy can flourish, so that people will take care of themselves, without being dependent on the government.

The concept of welfare for everyone has created millions of lazy, complacent and entitled people, who demand that others pay for their shit. The welfare state is the major contributor to the degradation of western society (and future collapse). The state has become a replacement for fathers and whole families. Idiots can reproduce several times faster than smart hard-working people, because the state uses taxes to pay for the idiot's kids. In the worst cases the welfare state destroyed whole cultures (eg. blacks in USA).

Meanwhile the debt is piling up, which means that the state is wasting way more that it can afford. The clock is ticking for the socialist ponzi scheme and you will have the pleasure to see it collapse. If you want to see where the welfare state ends up eventually, then check out the leftist socialist Greece.

A major fuckup of western democracy is that two people, one who produces wealth and one who just leeches, have both the same voting rights. Stupid idea that would need to be corrected the next time we try democracy.


What about people that are not getting any jobs and are looking desperately?

Yeah, take away voting rights from the rich would be smart so the rich cant support one another and give back instead.

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