It's really not a smart idea to threaten a super power <.<
" Who are the "guys" you're referring to? Do you think North Korean political rhetoric gets approved by all the farmers and regular folks who would suffer most from any sort of attack? Aren't you the same guy I just responded to in another thread who claimed you were spreading God's "message of peace and forgiveness"? Now we've gone from that to heads on spikes? Smh. |
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Exactly what torturo said. NK should not be under-estimated, despite their technological disadvantage. Even if they'd eventually loose any confrontation, they can still do a ton of damage, especially to south Korean civilians.
The most dangerous part is their numerous classic & rocket artillery pieces aimed at the south (Seoul is easily in range). They most certainly posses a lot of chemical weapons and the means to deliver them. Their terrain is hilly & forested, where it's easy to conceal mobile launchers (not like Iraqi flat desert), no way even a combined US, SK & Japan force would be able to take out all NK artillery before they retaliate. Recently they've successfully tested a submarine-launched ballistic missile, so in theory they posses a "second strike" capability. Combine this with a fanatical regime, determined military leadership and a completely brainwashed population that would fight to the end, even a loosing battle. This strategic threat to SK & Japan (& possibly US) is their biggest defense card. The time for a "painless" military intervention was maybe 15 years ago. Now it's a lot more tricky and certainly nothing like throwing Tomahawks on a half dead Syrian regime, which can't fight back. When night falls She cloaks the world In impenetrable darkness Last edited by morbo on Apr 18, 2017, 4:59:28 AM
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" Well, first you ask which people I'm referring to and then immediately proceed to assume that I'm referring to "farmers and regular folks" without even waiting for an answer. Also, you're attempting to defend a violent, insane warmongering nation who repeatedly threatens to launch nuclear missiles at everyone. Even their closest allies, China, have had enough yet you continue to defend them. Not sure what that says about you - that you're a north korean? Or a north korean sympathizer? Or just brainwashed? Or just wanting to argue for the sake of argument? Or you have something against me personally, so you'll say anything so long as it contradicts or attacks me and what I say? And btw, I was referring to the evil men in charge of the nation who perpetrate all kinds of brutality and cruelty on their own citizens while brainwashing them to worship them as gods. I have nothing but sympathy and pity for their brutalized, starved, abused and mind-controlled ordinary citizens. And I have nothing but disgust and disdain for the leaders of their country who are controlling what that country does, so yes, I refer to them by saying north korea. Because they ARE north korea because they control that nation. " I never claimed I was spreading a message of peace and forgiveness in that other thread. You're putting words in my mouth. I said that someone (I forget their name) was mocking people who were spreading that message. However, I probably should be. But there is also a time and a place for things. And I think that now is the time to destroy these enemies. Even God commanded Israel to utterly wipe out groups of people because He knew that they were evil and would not turn to righteousness and would only hurt those who would. I believe that the leadership of north korea is one such group of people. These men in charge of north korea are evil. They have made their choice and they will receive the consequences of their actions, which is death. Do I wish that they could be saved and turned to goodness and righteousness? Of course. Do I think that will happen? Not really. Not in this case. I'm more than happy for someone to prove me wrong, and maybe they will, but like I said, I doubt that will happen. Also, how dare you attempt to use my faith as a means to defend north korea's actions? I mean, I've seen the straw man used again and again, but I think that your use of it, in this case, and for the sake of the indefensible and detestable things this country has done and continues to do, takes the rotten cake. Last edited by Darkfyre on Apr 18, 2017, 1:40:25 PM
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" Your post is a bit weird, not quite sure how to respond other than to clarify; - I'm not pro North Korean. I have no idea how you think they would target the leaders, I think it would end up a giant clusterfuck. Either you nuke the shit out of them or it turns into another Vietnam where you get your asses kicked. - You spoke about "your faith" and how it promotes a "message of peace and forgiveness". Next I read a thread where you are literally calling for heads on spikes. If you can't see why someone would find that hilarious then you lack a sense of humor.... |
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" Ok, that is good to hear. " Destroy evil. Help good. Maybe you're right about that sense of humor thing - or at least your version of it - because I don't see the joke. Also, allow me to clarify one point on forgiveness: 3 So watch yourselves. "If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them. 4 Even if they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ you must forgive them.” - Luke 17:3-4 15 This is what the Sovereign LORD, the Holy One of Israel, says: “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it. - Isaiah 30:15 19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, - Acts 3:19 It seems pretty clear to me that without repentance of sin, there will be no forgiveness. That makes sense to me. Last edited by Darkfyre on Apr 18, 2017, 1:54:59 PM
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" Glad we agree. That was my entire point. Don't forget to drink your milk 👌
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Firstly, my apologies to Darkfyre for quoting these sections. The intent here is not to debate the individual but instead use a sample of text that illustrates a certain point of view. This section was convenient and thus appropriated without malice or individual intent.
" From a certain point of view, this position could be made against a vast range of nations, including the United States. Ever since WW2 the US has been interfering in the world's affairs, often in a bumbling manner, simply to perpetuate their empire of commercialism. They are quite often just the biggest bully on the block. From a certain point of view, North Korea are totally justified in their defensive/offensive posturing toward particularly the US. There is also the fact that other parties over the years have found it convenient to have a thorn in the side of the western world and have therefore supported the DPRK in varying manners. Make no mistake, nobody in the world gives a shit about the DPRK as an entity. They are however a very useful political expedient which can be used to influence and attain other things. Would the DPRK ever launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike on any nation? Of course not. They're not idiots, they know the consequence to that would be annihilation. So why build nuclear weapons then? Because with them, they can make a nation 10 times their size dance like a puppet. Without them, they are no different than any other abusive regime spread throughout the third world. On a nuclear segue now, why is it that only 'mature' (snigger) nations like the US and Russia are deemed responsible enough to possess nuclear weapons? What gives them the right to determine when other countries can or can't develop them? Anyway. I generally find most online discussions about global politics to be either entirely one dimensional or even fanatical in perspective and lacking in any real analytical rigour. I don't know that I'm really bucking that trend myself so I'll step away now :) |
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If NK wasn't in a super strong military position, they would have been taken out by now. They got thousands of artillery pieces aimed at Seoul, each of which could probably fire 10-20x before the USA is able to retaliate. So yeah, imagine somewhere in the ballpark of 50-100k shells raining down on downtown Seoul. That's the consequences for attacking NK. If they're gonna attack NK, they might as well just nuke all their artillery positions. Something stupid, like attacking their nuclear facility just means that Seoul is going to be turned into rubble.
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