Donald Trump and US politics

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Head_Less wrote:

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SnowCrash wrote:

Wow they asked for help for the dam while red states basically live off the taxes of states like California.

After claiming they will secede.
And why waiting 8 years to repair a Dam? I illegals don t make good engineers.

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SnowCrash wrote:

You mean like Texas did when Obama won? Red states are full of illegals why do you think all those farm towns look like little mexico?

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Only things sales taxed are luxury items not necessities (food)
Excise you dont need booze or cigarettes to live, again optional.
Property most states have exemption of a few hundred tho. Only higher end homes taxed. But yes property tax is theft in many cases sadly.

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Head_Less wrote:

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SnowCrash wrote:

You mean like Texas did when Obama won? Red states are full of illegals why do you think all those farm towns look like little mexico?

Indeed 60 000 made an online petition to secede during Obama time, however the Gov of Texas did not take part of this stupid shit, unlike Gov. Jerry Brown

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Only things sales taxed are luxury items not necessities (food)
Excise you dont need booze or cigarettes to live, again optional.
Property most states have exemption of a few hundred tho. Only higher end homes taxed. But yes property tax is theft in many cases sadly.

Um... Food is definitely taxed. Maybe it wasn't in the past, I am not well-informed about what the US tax code looked like before FDR, but where I lived in Maine, there were sales taxes on food. Just like everything else. I am also not particularly well-informed about what the police, fire departments, courts, and prisons looked like back in the 19th century. I get the feeling that these "voluntary" taxes (which to me seems like a distinction without a difference if we are actually talking about theft) would not really cover any of these systems in their modern form. I also doubt it'd cover maintenance on the national highways. Or the various social safety net programs quite a lot of people are quite attached to...

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Only things sales taxed are luxury items not necessities (food)
Excise you dont need booze or cigarettes to live, again optional.
Property most states have exemption of a few hundred tho. Only higher end homes taxed. But yes property tax is theft in many cases sadly.

Um... Food is definitely taxed. Maybe it wasn't in the past, I am not well-informed about what the US tax code looked like before FDR, but where I lived in Maine, there were sales taxes on food. Just like everything else. I am also not particularly well-informed about what the police, fire departments, courts, and prisons looked like back in the 19th century. I get the feeling that these "voluntary" taxes (which to me seems like a distinction without a difference if we are actually talking about theft) would not really cover any of these systems in their modern form. I also doubt it'd cover maintenance on the national highways. Or the various social safety net programs quite a lot of people are quite attached to...

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Only things sales taxed are In 1913 the feds made an income tax. This only effected the top 1% until after WW2.

The lowest tax bracket in 1917 was 2% on anything under 2k a year and went up to 67% for the top bracket.

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Budget_player_cadet wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

The difference between republican and democrat cities is free shit basically. You give free shit you get more freeloaders. Free citizenship (even for criminals with sanctuary cities) get more liabilities.

All goes back to master philosopher Reagan axiom “If you want more of something, subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it.”

Citation needed - that this is the main difference, that this actually is a consistent difference, and that this is always a net negative. This smacks me as almost absurdly oversimplified.