The AH dream is dead.

I have seen this haggle/negotiate function in other games' AH. It's not like there always has to be that buyout button instant sale. The only difference between fully supported GGG's AH and some shady website we all know could be amount of ads seen and alt tabs required to buy an item.

The arguments against any version of in-game auction house are mostly based on some versions of auction houses in other games that could potentionally cause more trouble in PoE, but there is no real argument against some version of auction house implemented in-game in general that would hold, if that one website is considered OK.

Luckily enough nowadays the gaming community is mostly full of people who do not want easy trading, and the proof is the number of multiplayer games that completely abandoned in-game trading AH. You can see it if you play pretty much any popular MMO. Nobody uses AH, it is not needed and it would cause more harm than good. People saying otherwise are just vocal minority. If you disagree, you are part of the vocal minority and should get over yourself. For one person crying for AH there is 10000 who do not want it and do not say anything. People who do not want AH in general do not ever post anywhere and therefore belong to the silent majority of MMO players who would never use AH in any game.

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Docbp87 wrote:

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C1111 wrote:

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exactly that ahah

It would create so many problems yet didnt mention one? My fav is the first page, ah would be shit because i said so.

What would make the ah bad, i went through the first few pages and saw nothing

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Chadwixx wrote:

It would create so many problems yet didnt mention one? My fav is the first page, ah would be shit because i said so.

What would make the ah bad, i went through the first few pages and saw nothing

Well, think about it...what do people hate about trade atm? that it feels mandatory? that people abuse it by flipping? that it's to easy to make one or two people extremely rich?

An auction house would amplify all of that massively, then you have those that want market control...buy every item of a type regardless of the price and then set his price way higher.

Ohh but it will help new players?....nope how are new players going to get the chaos they need to buy at the prices people will post them at, they'll get bored and moan that they need to use the AH same as now

It also encourages a different kind of botting (AH bots in WoW) that would be online 24/7 scanning constantly, which would probably put the server under massive load...like the wee hicup with the trade API and the quad tabs that brought the server down.

The hilarious part of this discussion is everyone's obfuscating, doublespeak assertion that Path of Exile "doesn't need" an auction house, yet someone's gone and created a de facto "auction house" in the form of poe.trade.

GGG won't implement an Auction House because poe.trade fills that role sufficiently:

(1) enables players to easily purchase items (relatively-speaking)
(2) requires "player interaction" (albeit in the form of "right-click, invite to party, "accept trade window", "% t4t", what masterful interaction LOL)

If GGG truly gave a fuck about a lack of Auction Houses, they'd shut down poe.trade and have everyone use the trade channel and trade forums.

IF a full AH was in place the game would need to be even harder than it already is.

GGG balances difficulty based on the player's ability or lack of ability to trade easily and also the ability to alt f4.

Each minutes in the world somebody is dying because of how trading is poorly handled in PoE.

( I didn't had a better one coming in mind sorry :D )

well...


FUCK

Feels bad. :(

From what I have read in most AH vs no AH threads, bots and flipping are the only 2 major problem with having an AH.

Solved quickly by implementing simple rules:

Botting - When you enter AH, needs to enter capcha, question, color or keyboard check, repeats every 30 minutes while in AH. AH botting solved.

Flipping - Meh. Let them flip, they bought me quick currency. Next patch nerf hammer strikes, items are crap. They cry to the forums.

Simple.

Why GGG would not implement? Maybe items flooding the market, cheap buying and no more grinding, game done, stop playing, wait for next league. Who cares buying the most expensive top rolled items when you can face roll content with non-top rolled ones or cheap substitute with cheap OP builds and skill gems. Maybe, I don't know.