Snapshot: Yes or no?

I'm confused on two counts, any help is appreciated, thank you in advance.

1. In the Necronomicon thread here (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/post-reply/1617098) I read that "snapshotting" is possible and viable,

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mattc3303 wrote:

Minions will gain the effects of the support gem while it is summoned. So you can swap out support gems in and out on the fly.

The minion gem is "snapshotted" to the link that you summoned it with.



while I read here

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Starxsword wrote:

Snapshotting is removed


and I no longer understand which is currently valid. Would my minions keep their support bonuses if I cast them with support gems and then remove those gems?

2. Also not sure how that applies to the longer-term Animate Guardian on leveling the gem. Mine is level 15; if I create him with all this gear I have saved up, and then the gem levels, will his life improve, or will he be snapshotted to the level 15 creature he was?

Thank you
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Last edited by onomastikon on Oct 26, 2016, 6:44:36 AM
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1. Your confusion is just because of some poor writing. This:

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mattc3303 wrote:
Minions will gain the effects of the support gem while it is summoned. So you can swap out support gems in and out on the fly.

is not snapshotting. It is literally the opposite. Snapshotting was the term used to refer to stats from support gems/etc applying even if you removed those gems. The behaviour described in that quote is the consequence of snapshotting being removed, and is how minions currently work.

2. The Guardian's stats will improve, although I believe you need to change zone to cause them to update.
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viperesque wrote:
1. Your confusion is just because of some poor writing. This:

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mattc3303 wrote:
Minions will gain the effects of the support gem while it is summoned. So you can swap out support gems in and out on the fly.

is not snapshotting. It is literally the opposite. Snapshotting was the term used to refer to stats from support gems/etc applying even if you removed those gems. The behaviour described in that quote is the consequence of snapshotting being removed, and is how minions currently work.

2. The Guardian's stats will improve, although I believe you need to change zone to cause them to update.


Thank you.
So to make sure I understand (English is not my first language) -- removing support gems once you have summoned a minion will remove those bonuses granted to the minion when you summoned it. If I want all the bonuses, I must keep everything status quo. Right?
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onomastikon wrote:
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viperesque wrote:
1. Your confusion is just because of some poor writing. This:

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mattc3303 wrote:
Minions will gain the effects of the support gem while it is summoned. So you can swap out support gems in and out on the fly.

is not snapshotting. It is literally the opposite. Snapshotting was the term used to refer to stats from support gems/etc applying even if you removed those gems. The behaviour described in that quote is the consequence of snapshotting being removed, and is how minions currently work.

2. The Guardian's stats will improve, although I believe you need to change zone to cause them to update.


Thank you.
So to make sure I understand (English is not my first language) -- removing support gems once you have summoned a minion will remove those bonuses granted to the minion when you summoned it. If I want all the bonuses, I must keep everything status quo. Right?


Exactly.
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That is correct. Probably poor wording choice but I was trying to explain the effects of the minion gem itself(mainly raise spectre and raise zombie) in relation to a socket. The gem itself still has the same mechanics as snapshotting in the past.

Here is the full quote:
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Minions will gain the effects of the support gem while it is summoned. So you can swap out support gems in and out on the fly.

The minion gem itself is "snapshotted" to the link that you summoned it with. For example lets say u have 2 6L chests. You summon the Spectre with the first chest and the RS gem is in the upper left hand side. Go to town and swap to another chest place the RS in the same slot and it will still be summoned. Remove the gem in any place besides town and they will desummon.
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