A plea to GGG not to nerf melee Poison into the ground.

Hello everyone,

Patch notes have hinted at future removal or at least "adjustment" to double-dipping on Poison. I currently play a melee Poison build and have grown very attached to the tactical advantages that Poison offers (such as reflect protection and fire-and-forget kite enabling). Please consider that melee Poison is not overpowered at the moment (unless perhaps you consider legacy Voidheart, but I would hope legacy items don't affect your balance decisions!).

I don't mind how this is achieved, whether it is by keeping double-dip for the Chaos Damage modifier, where I gain the bulk of my damage, or whether it is by axing double-dip completely and compensating by adding Poison-boosting passive nodes in the tree (DoT? Increased Poison Damage?). I've grown to very much enjoy having the bulk of my damage dealt as DoT, and I would very much like to keep it that way without being yanked down from clearing T12s to struggling on T4s. Heck, I would even accept if Viper Strike got reverted to its old version, where it adds Toxic Charges to the enemy for flat chaos damage, or something.

One of the other reasons I would feel sad if melee Poison got nerfed to the ground is that I would probably have to change weapons to compensate. Currently, Malicious weapons are a very niche item archetype with a very niche use in the end-game:



But if melee Poison gets nerfed to the ground, especially through removal of double-dip, these weapons would essentially become worthless, and I would just have to seek a high physical damage weapon like 95% of all other Attack builds out there, making itemization even staler than it already is. I thought you hated stale itemization!

Thanks for considering my input.

Here's a complete list of actions GGG would need to accomplish to ensure melee poison is nerfed into the ground:

Shit's screwed dude thank the community.

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Area Damage if applied by an area skill[5][6]
Projectile Damage if applied by a projectile skill[1]
Trap Damage if applied by a trap
Mine Damage if applied by a mine
Totem Damage if applied by a totem
Minion Damage if applied by a minion

im still hoping that they will only touch these and nothing else

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Here's a complete list of actions GGG would need to accomplish to ensure melee poison is nerfed into the ground:

I think you and I have some very different ideas about where the ground is :O

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xrook wrote:

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Area Damage if applied by an area skill[5][6]
Projectile Damage if applied by a projectile skill[1]
Trap Damage if applied by a trap
Mine Damage if applied by a mine
Totem Damage if applied by a totem
Minion Damage if applied by a minion

im still hoping that they will only touch these and nothing else

This means that none of those modifiers will not affect poison dmg after poison fix?

Why is the poison problem and double dipping poison? Why not whispering ice cold/fire double dip?
GGG likes to nerf cheap builds, they hate casual players...

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Tihi1982 wrote:

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xrook wrote:

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Area Damage if applied by an area skill[5][6]
Projectile Damage if applied by a projectile skill[1]
Trap Damage if applied by a trap
Mine Damage if applied by a mine
Totem Damage if applied by a totem
Minion Damage if applied by a minion

im still hoping that they will only touch these and nothing else

This means that none of those modifiers will not affect poison dmg after poison fix?

This means that those modifiers would not directly affect poison after fix. They would still indirectly make Poison stronger by making the Hit stronger.

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adghar wrote:

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Area Damage if applied by an area skill[5][6]
Projectile Damage if applied by a projectile skill[1]
Trap Damage if applied by a trap
Mine Damage if applied by a mine
Totem Damage if applied by a totem
Minion Damage if applied by a minion

im still hoping that they will only touch these and nothing else

This means that none of those modifiers will not affect poison dmg after poison fix?[/quote]

This means that those modifiers would not directly affect poison after fix. They would still indirectly make Poison stronger by making the Hit stronger.[/quote]

I know that, initial hit will work like before but without double dip with only 2sec duration and 8% from initial hit, poison buff from support gem will be useless imo, maybe poison buff will work for viper strike bc 8sec duration and some phys to chaos conversion. Poison support will be like any mediocre gem maybe even worse, like totally broken incinerate skill.