The Brass Dome Question on Crit Damage.

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Natharias wrote:

To clarify, critical strikes basically deal a percentage of what your damage would be. If it is above 100%, it is increased. If it is below 100%, crits deal less damage. If it is 100%, crits deal no damage different than a regular hit. Think of it as "deals x% of base damage".

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If m = 150% and R = 20%, then

E = 100 + (150 - 100) * (1 - 20/100) = 140%

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The wiki is made by players, hence "Community Wiki" or "Unofficial Wiki," so the formulas don't always match the game code.

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xrook wrote:

this is the part i wish i could see damage numbers especially if i want to experiment on something

like having someone attack me in pvp with brass dome + Indomitable + belt of the deciever.
but according to wiki the reduced Extra Damage from Critical Strikes calculation is this

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If m = 150% and R = 20%, then

E = 100 + (150 - 100) * (1 - 20/100) = 140%

on the other hand

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The wiki is made by players, hence "Community Wiki" or "Unofficial Wiki," so the formulas don't always match the game code.

EDIT:
if anyone asks, im simply hoping crits now deal less damage than normal hits

especially if combined with Reckless Defence turning it into another form of mitigation

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Vipermagi wrote:

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xrook wrote:

this is the part i wish i could see damage numbers especially if i want to experiment on something
like having someone attack me in pvp with brass dome + Indomitable + belt of the deciever.
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if anyone asks, im simply hoping crits now deal less damage than normal hits

The Brass Dome sets enemy Extra Crit Damage to zero.
Belt of the Deceiver/Indomitable reduce Extra Crit Damage by a percentage.
No matter the percentage reduction, zero stays zero.

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xrook wrote:

1) just want to experiment
2) that hit is still a "critical attack" not just a hit, so im just assuming if not only i dont receive extra crit damage i could try and see if i could reduce it even further
3) theres plenty of ways to become immune/avoid/remove freeze & shock (meh on the ignite)

theorycrafting O.O

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Vipermagi wrote:

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xrook wrote:

this is the part i wish i could see damage numbers especially if i want to experiment on something
like having someone attack me in pvp with brass dome + Indomitable + belt of the deciever.
[..]
if anyone asks, im simply hoping crits now deal less damage than normal hits

The Brass Dome sets enemy Extra Crit Damage to zero.
Belt of the Deceiver/Indomitable reduce Extra Crit Damage by a percentage.
No matter the percentage reduction, zero stays zero.

ok

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xrook wrote:

1) just want to experiment
2) that hit is still a "critical attack" not just a hit, so im just assuming if not only i dont receive extra crit damage i could try and see if i could reduce it even further
3) theres plenty of ways to become immune/avoid/remove freeze & shock (meh on the ignite)

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raics wrote:

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xrook wrote:

1) just want to experiment
2) that hit is still a "critical attack" not just a hit, so im just assuming if not only i dont receive extra crit damage i could try and see if i could reduce it even further
3) theres plenty of ways to become immune/avoid/remove freeze & shock (meh on the ignite)

You couldn't have it go below normal damage with reduced extra damage from crits in any case, extra damage can be reduced to zero and that's it, if you could reduce it by more than 100% it wouldn't become negative extra damage.

And, as I said above, not even reducing crit multi, which could theoretically do it, would work because crit multi is bottom capped at 100%.

But I like the idea, if you solve shock and freeze problems, five reckless defence jewels would be an easy way to stack a lot of block.

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Natharias wrote:

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raics wrote:

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xrook wrote:

1) just want to experiment
2) that hit is still a "critical attack" not just a hit, so im just assuming if not only i dont receive extra crit damage i could try and see if i could reduce it even further
3) theres plenty of ways to become immune/avoid/remove freeze & shock (meh on the ignite)

You couldn't have it go below normal damage with reduced extra damage from crits in any case, extra damage can be reduced to zero and that's it, if you could reduce it by more than 100% it wouldn't become negative extra damage.

And, as I said above, not even reducing crit multi, which could theoretically do it, would work because crit multi is bottom capped at 100%.

But I like the idea, if you solve shock and freeze problems, five reckless defence jewels would be an easy way to stack a lot of block.

It's already something I've thought of.

Go CI because of massive hit points.

Use Brass Dome to render crits ineffective.

Stack Reckless Defense jewels to cap out block.

Enjoy 75% of attacks and spells dealing no damage, and healing you if you use Aegis Aurora, and 25% of hits having to punch through your massive hit points.

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ivkoto77777 wrote:

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Natharias wrote:

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raics wrote:

You couldn't have it go below normal damage with reduced extra damage from crits in any case, extra damage can be reduced to zero and that's it, if you could reduce it by more than 100% it wouldn't become negative extra damage.

And, as I said above, not even reducing crit multi, which could theoretically do it, would work because crit multi is bottom capped at 100%.

But I like the idea, if you solve shock and freeze problems, five reckless defence jewels would be an easy way to stack a lot of block.

It's already something I've thought of.

Go CI because of massive hit points.

Use Brass Dome to render crits ineffective.

Stack Reckless Defense jewels to cap out block.

Enjoy 75% of attacks and spells dealing no damage, and healing you if you use Aegis Aurora, and 25% of hits having to punch through your massive hit points.

How will you have massive ES with CI, brass dome and aegis? :)