[2.4] CI BV Pathfinder - Compilation of Best Solutions Strictly for CI (update 5.0 Last - Weird LL)

Look for your answers in "QUESTIONS" section.

When you say you need scion reservation node for CoT which nodes are you talking about exactly?

THank you very much for this guide. It was very helpful being that CI transition can be difficult sometimes for people new to CI.

Thanks for the guide, it's very helpful.

I got a question tho, I'm running Hatred+Discipline+Herald of Thunder, having taken -aura reserve % nodes in all 3 aura clusters. The guide says you need an enlighten level 3 but I'm running fine without it. Sorry if I misread.

Hello i am currently playing a life based PF with 5k life on lvl 88 and i have full gear but having problems with uber lab and uber atziri is almost undoable, if i transition to this build will i have any problems with dying etc? (without having skyforth or shavrone)

My 5 cents:

1. Phys reflect can be easily countered with 1c unique - (and phys to lightning gem). If your bely doesnt provide lightning res, you can easily swap it, and enjoy clearing reflect maps, not caring about what happens if you suddenly hit a pack without Vinktar....

2. There are many effective gem combinations for BF. People think that Spell Echo and Added Fire Damage are mandatory gems, but they arent. People think Hatred is mandatory, but it isnt either. With enough cast speed from gear/gems, you may skil Echo and use +1 DPS gem. HoT isnt must-have too, obviously - you can just use 2-nd BV to get power charges.

3. Tooltip DPS is delusional, due to diamond flask. Use math to calculate your true DPS.

4. Dagger is not mandatory. Sceptre does the same job, if you deal elemental damage (PtL gem, hatred, etc), but is much cheaper to get.

5. Added lightning damage isnt enough for a good leech VS boss. You need at least conversion Vinktar, and better - PtL gem.

6. Skill tree shown in OP - isnt the only viable too. I prefer to take a node for additional -15% flask charges used and +45% skill duration. I dont understand, why players skip those awesome nodes, they are worth all your skill points spent!

7. Rumi - are you sure you need it? You leech to full ES in 0.3 sec after any blow, so why waste a slot for RNG defence? Why dont get Basalt or Atziri's Promise?

Questions answerd in questions section.

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Jutranjo wrote:

Thanks for the guide, it's very helpful.

I got a question tho, I'm running Hatred+Discipline+Herald of Thunder, having taken -aura reserve % nodes in all 3 aura clusters. The guide says you need an enlighten level 3 but I'm running fine without it. Sorry if I misread.

I had a really big troubles getting over 10-12 stacks without leech with this setup thats why i wrote that. But that doesnt seem to be a big problem so i redacted it a bit.

@MortalKombat3

Ill shortly respond to those ideas here, because they might mislead a lot of people and make them die (not all ofcourse).

1) This one is a really good idea. Ill incorporate that into my build, Belf of mine is swappable so that means i dont really have to care about any reflect now - but resistances might be a problem.

2) i have not used added fire for a reason, for me its a DMG lost despite TT being higher. Hatered is a mandatory for simple reason of detonate dead. You cant explode shattered corpse. As to Spell echo:

i have currently over 4 cast/s. Each cast costs me 72 mana. Lets say that with other gem it will be 68. Thats effectively 272 mana burnt per second. With 150 mana unreserved thats 2 cast and pause without leech. There are many moments in the game where you will be not leeching. No leech no mana to cast BV, no life leech to survive, death.

HoT - It's a must have to, hands down best support herald for BV - I would run Wrath also if i could. Why? Because converting dmg to LS is a lost dmg. Thx to zero lightning penetration. Im currently using P2L Vinktars because i dont have required gear to switch to Damage to Spells one. With high enough multiplers/spell damage/area damage, dropping conversion vinktars will result in dmg increase and same survivability like having conversion one.

3) With BV all you have to do is divide the TT by cast speed and multiply by 20. Anyone can do that by himself. (wont respond to diamond flask because im not using it)

4) Spectres are used in poverty version of BV mby by i dont know who. Critical strike chance is way more important than 30% ele dmg - because it increases sustainability.

5) P2L gem beside reflect maps has absolotely zero use in BV.

6) RaizQT picked those nodes also and ive talked to him a bit and we came to conclusion those nodes are just not cost efficient.

7) Rumis is useful - It can save your ass a lot of time. It helps to block any source of damage. Basalt only helps vs physical hits. With high enough extra ele dmg you want to limit the number of hits you are taking. Leech wont solve every problem if you get hit for 30k. Blocking that hit can save you.

Atziri's promice was described in "How to get more dmg gear section"

Overall some ideas are good like the belt, but most would gimp me way too much.

Sorry for having wasted your time, but I forgot I was using a 5L so the manacost is not insane yet, it's only 46 mana and I have 135 unreserved with some mana regen.

I can get up to 12 stacks without leeching anything, then it breaks my casting due to no mana.

I saw another build picking up the Dreamer mana notable, below where you socket the Energy from Within Jewel, that might be worth it?

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Jutranjo wrote:

Sorry for having wasted your time, but I forgot I was using a 5L so the manacost is not insane yet, it's only 46 mana and I have 135 unreserved with some mana regen.

I can get up to 12 stacks without leeching anything, then it breaks my casting due to no mana.

I saw another build picking up the Dreamer mana notable, below where you socket the Energy from Within Jewel, that might be worth it?

Please check the new tree for an answer.

dont you need 2 vinktars for shaper fight?