[2.6] THE NEW FAKENER | DISCHARGE | SUPER FAST STRANDS | Cospris Malice | 9k+ ES | STILL GREAT AOE

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Kortiah wrote:
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idk if its because i dnt have all my 8% es jewels on but im only missing a 10% es off the tree and im only at 6300 es :/ when i was on my pathfinder i was at 7.5k. note that im lv 73 atm

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAAceDXwN0Q5ID6sQkhFQEZYV1xa_GF0byBzcIG4i9CM2JIso-ioLKjgsvy3SMjIy0TW5PAU87z1fRUdFfEZxSVFJsUyzUDBSU1MQVmNXyV3yX2pfsGNDZlRo8mwLbRlvnnBSfll_xoKbgwmExYV7hX2GronTjDaMdo8aj_qTJ5Uul5WXl5f0mK2aO5u1n9-hL6cIpyut8bQMtDi4k7xvvorAZsM6ykrK09DQ18_Zhtrd217jhOUZ6rrr7uwY7DjvfO-I8NX5N_v1?accountName=GGIsLoveGGIsLife&characterName=TheNerfedDischarge



i also still dont know if there is anything worth while replacing my purities with since my res are already capped without them (88 res + on all 3)


You're missing the ES witch and Sion nodes ... Not really 10%


ur right man im so stupid x.x... completely overlooked them when looking at the tree :/
Hello!
I'm Level 64 on Breach HC with my Trickster. How do I proc Discharge as Trickster? I don't see any 'Cast on Critical Strike' gem in your setup (for Trickster). I'm using it manually on full charges at the moment. Or do I need to at a CoC + 2nd dischage gem to my setup?



Last edited by Vahlnur on Jan 4, 2017, 9:47:18 PM
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Vahlnur wrote:
Hello!
I'm Level 64 on Breach HC with my Trickster and I think I do something wrong. I never played a CoC Discharge build, but I'm wondering why I have no 'Cast on Critical Strike' gem linked to one of my skills as Trickster. At the moment I use Dischage manually on max charges. Do Dischage Trickster don't use a CoC gem?




Malice casts discharge automatically, but until you equip it you need to link

Discharge

Cast on Crit

and a Proc gem (Cyclone,shield charge)

all together.
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maddognils wrote:
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Vahlnur wrote:
Hello!
I'm Level 64 on Breach HC with my Trickster and I think I do something wrong. I never played a CoC Discharge build, but I'm wondering why I have no 'Cast on Critical Strike' gem linked to one of my skills as Trickster. At the moment I use Dischage manually on max charges. Do Dischage Trickster don't use a CoC gem?




Malice casts discharge automatically, but until you equip it you need to link

Discharge

Cast on Crit

and a Proc gem (Cyclone,shield charge)

all together.


Any advice where I should add the CoC and Discharge in my equipment?
Hey guys, can you check out my character NudeIRL and give some advice what my priority list should look like? I havent gone CI yet, but i think i should as i have 4,2k ES. Also im wondering how people get 9k+ ES.
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Vysirus wrote:
So the build is absolutley fun and fast especially in maps. However i'm struggling against some bosses if i won't kill 'em fast enough while vinktar flask is on.
I must be missing something just don't know what. Feels like the leech could be the problem since i only see some real leech while vinktar is on.

Tried Xoph and as soon as vinktar went off i couldn't facetank him for 2 seconds. He just burned me. Ofc i'm using the defensive setup and took a rubys.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Vysirus/characters



I just did a whole lot of planning and realised this is a shortfall of this setup - Vinktar is the only leech source, and the boot leech only works with adds.

I ran instead with Blasphemy - Warlord's / Assassin's Mark, had to go Whispers of Doom which cost 7 passive points. The results are great, reliable leech. The downside is you lose purities - but I've yet to oneshot myself in about 60 maps and I've forgotten that ele reflect is a thing (if purities were supposed to adress that.)


I've decided that the best option is also the most expensive one: a Voll's Devotion with +1 corruption will free up that 7 points. This costs about 20ex and up, however, which makes it the ultimate luxury item for the build.

Also, what happens to the boot enchant slot? Warlord's Mark not only adds reliable mana leech - it frees up the boots for a 2% life and mana regen upon taking damage. This means returns of about 14 to 20 mana per second with a mana pool of 700, scaling even further with mana regen nodes. Combined, these two sort of make up for lack of Elreon rings which are much rarer and niche than outright stat sticks.

I'd need to look at how many cyclones can be cast in a sec to know whether this can take over rings completely, but consider all the other side effects from dual-cursing:

1) Assassin's Mark is a huge damage boost and placeholder for crit chance until you get better gear. It ALSO grants power charges on kill.

2) Warlord's Mark makes sure you permanently have endurance charges while mapping, making you impossible to kill.

You can swap out Assassin's Mark for Enfeeble (your 9k ES is now worth 12k+) or Temp Chains (dodge every windup easily while cycloning).

At the pinnacle of this build would be TRI-CURSE from Voll's and Whispers of Doom. Third curse source? An On Hit corruption on your gloves of course. If you were worried about cost or losing stats, Maligaro's are dirt cheap and the ES you lose is more than made up for by an Enfeeble in your setup.

Downside of all this that I can see, but perhaps the only one, is that you have to reroll hexproof maps, but tank and dish out a lot more consistently and safely.
💥💫BB Unloader 1000% AoE 70m DPS🗡️🔪🔫: view-thread/3466787
FlickerCoC Ice Nova / Spear Assassin: view-thread/3225536
🔨⚡CWC Lightning Conduit Mjolner Trickster: view-thread/3300148
VD Arcanist Brand Necro: view-thread/2911667
Last edited by primaeva on Jan 5, 2017, 12:41:40 AM
What about using poachers mark + herald of ice + curse on hit for life leech? Maybe its better than warlords?
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Vacys wrote:
What about using poachers mark + herald of ice + curse on hit for life leech? Maybe its better than warlords?


Poacher's Mark is great for mapping but should be swapped out on bosses. It's primary role is to keep flasks full (with onslaught + Dying Sun up you just waltz through maps - it's hilarious) - and it generates frenzy charges that speed up your attacks, add discharge damage (not that much more as you plonk cold EE when hitting a target with Cospri skills).

On bosses it really falls off as Life on Hit really stinks, you can hit them 100 times in one second and still only leach 2400 HP. It's not a bossing tool for sure, but it's one of the best mapping swaps you can put into your gear (e.g. Dried Lake farm or speed running <T14 maps where Vinktar leech duration is more than enough to melt the boss.)

Herald of Ice does nothing for the build, as far as I can see, could you enlighten me on how it works? (Never used a char with it)
💥💫BB Unloader 1000% AoE 70m DPS🗡️🔪🔫: view-thread/3466787
FlickerCoC Ice Nova / Spear Assassin: view-thread/3225536
🔨⚡CWC Lightning Conduit Mjolner Trickster: view-thread/3300148
VD Arcanist Brand Necro: view-thread/2911667
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primaeva wrote:
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Vysirus wrote:
So the build is absolutley fun and fast especially in maps. However i'm struggling against some bosses if i won't kill 'em fast enough while vinktar flask is on.
I must be missing something just don't know what. Feels like the leech could be the problem since i only see some real leech while vinktar is on.

Tried Xoph and as soon as vinktar went off i couldn't facetank him for 2 seconds. He just burned me. Ofc i'm using the defensive setup and took a rubys.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Vysirus/characters



I just did a whole lot of planning and realised this is a shortfall of this setup - Vinktar is the only leech source, and the boot leech only works with adds.

I ran instead with Blasphemy - Warlord's / Assassin's Mark, had to go Whispers of Doom which cost 7 passive points. The results are great, reliable leech. The downside is you lose purities - but I've yet to oneshot myself in about 60 maps and I've forgotten that ele reflect is a thing (if purities were supposed to adress that.)


I've decided that the best option is also the most expensive one: a Voll's Devotion with +1 corruption will free up that 7 points. This costs about 20ex and up, however, which makes it the ultimate luxury item for the build.

Also, what happens to the boot enchant slot? Warlord's Mark not only adds reliable mana leech - it frees up the boots for a 2% life and mana regen upon taking damage. This means returns of about 14 to 20 mana per second with a mana pool of 700, scaling even further with mana regen nodes. Combined, these two sort of make up for lack of Elreon rings which are much rarer and niche than outright stat sticks.

I'd need to look at how many cyclones can be cast in a sec to know whether this can take over rings completely, but consider all the other side effects from dual-cursing:

1) Assassin's Mark is a huge damage boost and placeholder for crit chance until you get better gear. It ALSO grants power charges on kill.

2) Warlord's Mark makes sure you permanently have endurance charges while mapping, making you impossible to kill.

You can swap out Assassin's Mark for Enfeeble (your 9k ES is now worth 12k+) or Temp Chains (dodge every windup easily while cycloning).

At the pinnacle of this build would be TRI-CURSE from Voll's and Whispers of Doom. Third curse source? An On Hit corruption on your gloves of course. If you were worried about cost or losing stats, Maligaro's are dirt cheap and the ES you lose is more than made up for by an Enfeeble in your setup.

Downside of all this that I can see, but perhaps the only one, is that you have to reroll hexproof maps, but tank and dish out a lot more consistently and safely.


Cwdt on a low lvl with warlords mark is the exact same thing as having a blasphemy with warlords mark. Any little bit of damage dealt to you will cast warlords mark with a big aoe around the mob.

This happens constantly when fightning a boss or anything that deals damage to you. And if nothing deals damage to you you don't need it anyway right?

This way we don't have to waste mana reserve :)



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I watched one persons stream. He destroys everythink easily and uses poachers mark.


His profile:

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/fandabear1/characters

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