"We don't want the rich to get richer" logic; discuss.

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Entropic_Fire wrote:

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Mr_Bill wrote:

For the naive, most people who get rich on temp leagues are the ones that trade cross league in order to get a nice amount of currency to buy up the goods. Doesn't matter that it isn't sanctioned, it happens all the time.

If you know someone doing it report them, they will get banned.

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brunowa wrote:

The only people who care whether the economy deflates is the rich.

Personally, I'd much prefer it if there were no items more than 3ex. Means i could explore so much more of this game.

But i also understand why the economy is protected because people love spending 16 how's a day grinding trying to find something valuable and this is also good business for GGG.

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Cataca wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

"Youre wrong"

> Goes off on some random ranting tangent thats completely irrelevant.

Good to know my time here was wasted immediately. Now off to work.

How was that a random tangent of the guy? You are on one.

If things are inexpensive, you dont need huge amounts of wealth to buy what you need. That is why the statement "the poor get poorer" is factually simply wrong, seen from a PoV of poor person that will have similar wealth to what he had before, but can now afford much more.

And mr. poor guy could afford everything he wants, not by playing the trading game, but by picking up currency drops while running around killing stuff - aka. playing the game.

Your point is that mr. poor guy wont be amassing stacks of exalts because that lucky drop costs one 5th of what it did before. His point is that he doesnt need to.

He wins the argument. You are off a tangent.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Nothing feels worse than finding a rare item and finding out its worthless.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

"The poorer dont get poorer when the item that would normally have value doesnt have value"

You plain and simple dont know what youre talking about at all. Coin devaluation is a prime example of that. About 1.5 months into the league there were soo many items that it didnt even become worth it to buy the items with coins off Cadiro.

If everyone owns one, then who the fuck is buying ? No one, which is exactly why they became surplus and crashed to the point where they werent even worth buying off Cadiro.

Poor get poorer for multiple reasons. One being that the item would normally have a significantly higher value. Theres a huge fucking different between 1 exalt and 7, especially after exalt prices rise to the norm. Second, if you cant fucking sell your item because everyone owns it, how the fuck are you making any money off Cadiro ? You arent.

Edit - PS

Rich players are rich for a reason, because they play more, have more knowledge, have better efficiency, have better methodology, etc. Trying to get your way by whining without thinking gives you results similar to Perandus league where even casuals who thought they were going to make money ended up making relatively nothing and then later whining about the complete surplus of items and how nothing would sell.

If it werent the case GGG would have never bumped the T1 rarity back up, guess what, they did. Nothing feels worse than finding a rare item and finding out its worthless.

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EKTELESTES wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

says Cadiro was the best thing ever but all he did was make the poor get poorer because all items became relatively worthless.

Best not to talk economy when you dont understand it to be honest.

How did he make the poor poorer when ANYBODY had a good chance of finding at least a shavs, not to mention Voll's Devotion + Headhunter?


In like 10k hours in the game, I have NEVER EVER dropped a shavs; yet Cadiro gave me 2 shavs + voll's + headhunter, among other 1ex ++ items.

Also, do you play Sim City or a Trading game or an Action RPG? I want to have items available; If I have the items available / have good chance of getting them, there is not need to trade a lot :P So what????

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Druga1757 wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

"The poorer dont get poorer when the item that would normally have value doesnt have value"

You plain and simple dont know what youre talking about at all. Coin devaluation is a prime example of that. About 1.5 months into the league there were soo many items that it didnt even become worth it to buy the items with coins off Cadiro.

If everyone owns one, then who the fuck is buying ? No one, which is exactly why they became surplus and crashed to the point where they werent even worth buying off Cadiro.

Poor get poorer for multiple reasons. One being that the item would normally have a significantly higher value. Theres a huge fucking different between 1 exalt and 7, especially after exalt prices rise to the norm. Second, if you cant fucking sell your item because everyone owns it, how the fuck are you making any money off Cadiro ? You arent.

Edit - PS

Rich players are rich for a reason, because they play more, have more knowledge, have better efficiency, have better methodology, etc. Trying to get your way by whining without thinking gives you results similar to Perandus league where even casuals who thought they were going to make money ended up making relatively nothing and then later whining about the complete surplus of items and how nothing would sell.

If it werent the case GGG would have never bumped the T1 rarity back up, guess what, they did. Nothing feels worse than finding a rare item and finding out its worthless.

The poor didn't get poorer - their buying power INCREASED because their currency drops stayed the same, but items got cheaper. The "poor" don't flip like the rich. They're "poor" because they just buy with the currency that drops for them, and the occasional sale. So when rare uniques get cheaper, and their "income" stays they same, many more builds are open to them, and they play longer, trying out new builds. This was confirmed as Perandus had the best player retention since launch.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Why is that ? Because players got their freebies and fucked off for the rest of the league, thats why. You arent retaining players unless those players become part of the regular player numbers, the only reason people played perandus league was for the freebies and thats a fact.