Can millenials take a joke? The state of modern comedy.
" It is a question. You broken my sentence into a weird way. " Comedian job is to make people make people laugh. Offending people isn't his job although sometime it is unavoidable. If Comedy is a form of art, the combination of creative skill, imagination and elegant to bring joy to people is the yardstick we measure them by. A comedian that offend his audience, just show a lack of elegant and grace. “Most Comedy is Based on Getting a Laugh at Somebody else's Expense. and I Find That That's Just a Form of Bullying in a Major Way. so I Want to Be an Example That You Can Be Funny and Be Kind, and Make People Laugh without Hurting Somebody else's Feelings.” Ellen DeGeneres |
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" That's what I've been telling you but you seem unable to hear. There are different types of humour and the darkest, most offensive humour is more important than the goofy, family-friendly one. It teaches you to deal with the nasty shit life's inevitably going to throw at you. People who get offended and can't deal with humour are incapable of dealing with life itself. Let's say you get hurt because someone tells a nasty joke about your race, gender, religion, social group or whatever. How are you going to deal with it when a loved one dies? Guess what, everyone fucking dies, often in a prolonged and unpleasant manner. Your mom and dad will die or have already done this. You will die and, chances are, you'll know for a long time beforehand and suffer terribly. How are you going to deal with this? How can you allow a stupid little joke to hurt you when life is going to do it all the time? Offensive humour is bullying? Fuck this shit, only someone who hasn't experienced a single minute of bullying in their life can say something so stupid. Being nine years old and getting beaten up by someone six years older and left crying and freezing in the snow is bullying. How are you going to deal with it? Well, you can cry and get hurt every time you think about it, or you can grow a pair, accept that shit happens and move on. We have to deal with a great amount of suffering throughout our lives and the only way to do it and keep our sanity is by learning to laugh at it. Think of it as a workout - and medicine - for the soul. If you can't handle an offensive comedian, I can only pity you. If you try to silence comedy because your fragile feelings can't deal with it, we are going to have words. That's the problem with some people in the richer countries right now - their lives are so soft, so cushioned, they become weak and incapable of withstanding any unpleasantness. And when the inevitable tough fucking unpleasant shit happens, they can't handle it and break down. 'Oh, but you hurt my feelings'... If your feelings are so easy to hurt, you should probably go to a comedy club and pay the nastiest comedian to insult you in public for one hour three times per week until you stop being such a whiny little bitch. It will be much better for you in the long run than teaming up with other pieces of mental jelly and crying about it. Because guess what - in the large scheme of things, you'll always be a nine-year old and life will sooner or later turn into someone twice your size and kick the shit out of you. You'd better be ready to take it. The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and builds come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the build that gave it birth comes again. Last edited by Bars on Aug 6, 2016, 8:47:26 AM
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" You dont need to look too close to notice the self-loathing " ah yes, ellen degenerate, one of those very "smart" women that wanted to ban the word "bossy". hmm, really makes you think. To be honest, your posts seem like a joke, and not a funny one. I feel offended, feel free to stop anytime. Oblivious
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Bars knows his shit, I'd sign that.
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" This is a good point and aspect that I forgot about. I had never thought of the role the audience plays in comedy until I heard Louis CK talking behind the scenes about how much work goes into writing, phrasing, and setting up a joke where the punch line(s) involve him killing a 7 year old kid. It made perfect sense the way he explained it, where you have to work with the audience, you have to earn their trust, you have to make them understand that you're not a crazy person in a subtle and clever way that blends those ideas right into the story you're telling, without saying any of it explicitly. So I (and perhaps others too?) forget that the audience can and does play a much more important and active role than just 'choosing weather or not to laugh'. " This is very interesting too. It seems like you're suggesting that perhaps millennials will be the first generation to truly be able to put 'world war' era shit behind them (us, as humanity really). I'm older than millennials, but I always had the sense growing up that my generation was or would be the first to truly look at people of other color, sexual orientation, or whatever, and be mostly blind to it (some latent biases can't be blinded - and some environments can't help but produce the various bad "-isms" we wish we could be rid of, but that's a different topic perhaps). So to get back to what you wrote, perhaps this uber zealous social justice is the millennial way of trying to do their part to eliminate the horrible things you listed, and trying to truly put the "post" in "post-modern". I find that idea fascinating, whether or not that's what you intended. :P |
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As i mentioned before seeing through the lines and jokes is how intelligence people understand that some types of comedy while touching controversial issues can be accepted and respected, without actually feeling insulting.
In the same way you extracted that conclusion, which is only part of the effort from millenials that includes way more aspects of life. That topic is about comedy though and i wanted to stay as much as possible in it. Comedy is the art that makes your brain see things from another perspective that often triggers laughing, not because the topic if funny or only for laughs but because the state and phases your brain went through to understand the message triggerd that reaction of gaiety. As for the other part, i too thought my generation would be the one leaving behind all the bullshit, but growing up saw that others of my age didnt share that notion. You see the bullshit passed through our parents, and it will take a lot longer (if ever) to truly leave the shit behind. Not that its mandatory, that shit teached things beyond our imagination, if we learned thats another matter. Inundated with cockroaches, I am
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" You are being argumentative. I think you are the one living a sheltered life to assume all countries are the same. A comedian probably can't tell his twisted humor to mock race, gender or religion here. There are laws for this. We don't allow people to joke about things people have bled and died for. Some people just take things for granted. You can still tell these jokes in private, public performance of these aren't allowed. |
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OK, so you aren't from a spoiled rich country, you're from an oppressive and, let me guess, theocratic country. You don't have basic freedoms and you seem to enjoy it. I can only say I'm extremely glad I don't live in a country like that and I want no people from a country like that migrating to mine.
The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and builds come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the build that gave it birth comes again. Last edited by Bars on Aug 6, 2016, 2:25:27 PM
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" It is called learning from experience, being pragmatic. If I have to describe it, it is an overprotective rich spoiled secular country. If threatening to throwing jackasses into jail who know full well they can cause people to protest and riot causing property damage and innocent to die is being a tyrant, we are glad we did it. Call us King Tyrant please! |
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