Help theorycrafting Scold's Bridle / Hiltless

Just want to do something fun but not suicidal. So certain things like Abyssus are out of the question.

The main premise is a Berserker with Cloaked in Savagery and Aspect of Carnage that uses Hiltless and/or Scold's Bridle.

Option one is Scold's Bridle with dual Cybil's Paws. Maximum life gain on hit from spells and tons of inherent leech.

Option two is Hiltless.

Option three is Scold's Bridle and Hiltless, which I'm currently trying with mix-matched CWDT spell combinations.

I would prefer being able to get Scold's Bridle with Cybil's Paw working, but it seems that's not gonna happen.

I've looked up two different threads about this but I just don't get what is wrong.

you can do pretty interesting things with this combination-
*blood magic gem linked to main skill (spell)
*use scold's
*use mom- so your damage taken from scolds will deplete your mana as well.
*enhance mana cost with several fevered mind http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Fevered_Mind
*and then use Zerphi's Last Breath to recover lost life x8 http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Zerphi%27s_Last_Breath

in the end it is up to you to keep recovering life or increase mana costs further and use Cast on damage taken.

I see you're really eager to draft something based on Cybil's Paw Natharias ;]

Well,as I said before,you should interest in Ball Lightning + Increased AoE + Echo as a base,perhaps + Slower Projectiles as well.Add to that Orb of Storms + AoE.Herald of Thunder's 2nd effect should also count as a hit if it is able to apply curses via Curse on Hit.Get increased area nodes from passives tree,equip Caracass,Divinarius etc and perhaps you'll cook something usable.Arctic Armour should help to endure Scolds selfharm ability.

I should clarify. I'm trying to see if this could surpass Mjolner's potential.

It would've been nice if using lower level CWDT versions with Heralds and Added Damage gems would allow higher DPS, but the only good option is maxed levels with Controlled Destruction. The problem with that is proc time and cooldown.

Mjolner only gets 1-3 spells, and is usually only one spell with life leech support and a various support gem. But it has no cooldown, so you can effectively get thirty procs worth as opposed to CWDT's 6-8.

Still don't get what you're trying to achieve

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MasterBLB wrote:

Still don't get what you're trying to achieve

Not that difficult to understand.

Mjolner can one-shot entire mobs without any investment. I'm just trying to get one click with Scold's and/or Hiltless to do the same or similar.

Which spells are you currently using, and what kind of bonuses are you picking up in the tree?

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adghar wrote:

Which spells are you currently using, and what kind of bonuses are you picking up in the tree?

No current significant bonuses in the tree.

I was using Vortex, Glacial Cascade, Ethereal Knives, Ice Nova, Shock Nova, and Bladefall. Spells with durations seem to be a really good pick since there's 90% increased duration along the way to VP.

If it were me making this build, I'd probably shoot for big Fire damage, mostly for the double dipping Ignites. Life regen near or on fire nodes should help survivability a bit too.

More specifically I would reach for fire, elemental, area, and minimally spell nodes, take Avatar of Fire, and wear a Pyre, mostly because there are some fantastic Area cold spells and AoE stat makes double dipping a little bit easier.

I'm thinking Firestorm, Vortex, Ice Nova, Glacial Cascade. I personally prefer souped up spells rather than more spells, so I'm imagining that would be enough. I dunno.

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Poison would be another double dipping option but then you'd be limited to 3 spells only, and only 2 would scale with area. Not sure if that would be a dealbreaker for you.

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Other than that I lack imagination. Sky's re limit, I suppose.

the wormageddon build is one of the best cwdt builds produced and can be played with scold
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1662643

However it doesnt use scold itself


i remember that there was a leap slam scold bridle bitter dream build somewhere based on scion, the clean speed was insane too , but low mono target.

the idea was to use a corrupted WED bitterdream to increase leap slam mana cost with blood magic level 1 and faster attack, then Zerphi's Last Breath allowed you to recover your full health.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1632595

pure cwdt scold, it seems closer to yours expectations


for hiltless, i dislike this weapon, unless you do a cwdt coc physical poison build with assassin it's unusable, but it's attack speed is problematic, it also scales on aoes attack and multi hits better. Problem, you cant use zerphi to heal back



http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Heartbound_Loop is another very greatly designed unique, especially with cwdt srs less duration.