How is it fair mjo got nerfed?

Now only has a proc rate of 30%. And have to attack at relatively slow attack speed of 1.1

Lets compare to CoC.

70% proc rate (100% CC is easy to get these days with assassins) and can cast like 3 spells in 6L and can use cant miss daggers that attack up to 1.76 with master craft.

WTF over?

mjo should have never been nerfed at all. If anything needed a buff.
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Last edited by Aim_Deep on Jul 2, 2016, 9:36:58 AM
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I believe mjo has no internal cooldown on its procs, so the spells can cast simultaneously without having to use staggered hits.

Unless GGG changed how cast on hit on mjo works you can theoretically cast many many more casts than CoC.

CoC cannot get over 20 procs per second period. Also attacking too fast (eg barrage) could actually reduce your total procs. (eg if you are firing 20 barrage projectiles every second you could get up to 20 procs, but if you are firing 21 barrage projectiles per second you will be down to maximum of 11 to 12 procs actually fucking yourself over by giving yourself a 80% less dps for attacking too fast).

With Mjolner say I cyclone into a pack of 30 mobs and hits 5 times that second (0.20s per hit) I could get 150 procs in 1 second potentially. (or 45 procs on average).

Also without support you can cast 6 spells or 3 spells doubled up (or double up on procs like double arc and double shock nova for example) with mjo if you DW them.... CoC is limited to 4 spells at the most (assuming casting different spells concern you).

Furthermore, mjolner synergies with ALL attacks glove enchants.

Also mjo just has to focus on spell crits, and people even made Ultra Defensive RT Mjo before, while coc is forced to invest points in crits.

Just some things to think about when you say CoC is better than mjo in everything ever...

Lastly, Chris said he's going to rape CoC next patch, depending on the nerf CoC could be the new trash skill like incinerate or cleave. So might as well wait and see.

CoC could get a 1000ms proc delay and became 100% useless. CoC Gem could get an innate 80% less spell damage and 80% less attack speed. CoC could get a mana cost multiplier of 1000%, we don't know what it's gonna be yet so calm your tits.

edit: Also if you really want to you can actually run 4 spells on 6L coc while using 2x mjo and casts 10 spells. The 2 are actually completely different beasts since they can actually work together...
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Last edited by Pewzor on Jul 2, 2016, 9:56:27 AM
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Just some things to think about when you say CoC is better than mjo in everything ever...


having played many CoC builds and 30% mjo I say CoC is quite a bit better especially with cant miss daggers. thats a big deal when you either have to take RT which means DPS is low due to non crit or invest inaccuracy and spell crit for mjo canceling whatever melee crit CoC needs. Its a wash. Beyond that CoC is over the top 70% proc vs 30 proc. You're actually crit spells with CoC instead of usually not crit with mjo so COC's spells do more DPS. Higher IAS w/ COC. More spells cast w/ CoC like 3-4 vs 2-3. Not to mention unlimited types of spells including broken phys spells vs just lightning.

coc doesnt need a nerf tho - so many more broken things than that even - mjo needs to be restored to 50% glory if not buffed.
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Last edited by Aim_Deep on Jul 2, 2016, 10:26:15 AM
One huge difference is that Mjolnir doesn't need to crit.

The internal cooldown is not nothing either. If you hit 10 enemies at the same time, CoC will cast 1 discharge (or whatever spell you are using), and Mjolnir will cast 3 (on average). Or 6, if you linked 2 discharges. Or 9, if you linked 3. (Or 18, if you were using dual strike + melee splash for some reason.)

Another, thing to note is that Mjolnir doesn't take up slots in the skill you use. So you can attack enemies with a curse-on-hit skill, for eg. Or use lots of gems for hit-maximisation. Or, if you are a boss, you can even go CoC + Mjolnir.
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