Is Reach of the Council TOOO good?

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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:

Are corrupted items immune to nerfs or do those get changed too?

If the change is global yes.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:

Are corrupted items immune to nerfs or do those get changed too?

If the change is global yes.

Huh? Yes they are immune to nerf or yes they get changed?

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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:

Are corrupted items immune to nerfs or do those get changed too?

If the change is global yes.

Huh? Yes they are immune to nerf or yes they get changed?

Nothing is immune to retroactive nerfs.

Corrupted voltaxics still got gimped from 100% to 60%.

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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:

Huh? Yes they are immune to nerf or yes they get changed?

Global nerfs are a value override that affect every single item with the targeted mods (like what happened with leech and chaos conversion).

Considering that reach got lots of "regular" mods, the only target could be the extra arrow mod but they are other items sharing it so the chances of a global nerf are pretty low.

Whoops i mistyped that, i meant to say no, they arent immune or anything. As others mentioned above.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Whoops i mistyped that, i meant to say no, they arent immune or anything. As others mentioned above.

Damn, that sucks. I thought corruption locked the item up or at least was hoping. It is hard to get hyped for new items when you work all season for them and then they can get nerf slammed.

Playing phys builds, I've been using the same bow (lionglare) for like 3 years. Unless you roll a really decent harbinger which is never top end and slow , My clear speed is usually best with Glare. We finally get what phys bows needed and they want to take it away.

Maybe the nerf could be something like

(only deals physical damage, phys damage cannot be converted into other damage types)

Yes - All unique endgame weapons are fairly OP because of how hard it is to find/craft one. It will have a standard price and is nearly as good as top tier bow.

No - on hardcore because of phys reflect on an evasion/hp based character. Voltaxic is better there.

Consider the low crit chance (6%) vs the 9.5% on a higher end harbinger

Harbinger wins pure phys
Harbinger wins Crit
Reach loses gem slot for crit chance to bring 6% up to 8% (imo)
Reach makes up phys because of no gmp penalty
Reach wins mana cost

A top notch reach really competes with a mirrored harb which means the drop rate is what really ought to be nerfed.

Please keep this item as is. I am sick of using lionglare for last 3.5 years (while I try to roll a harb all season). Maybe nerf the drop rate by 75% to keep it special.

Unfortunately Serpent, most of the folks who GGG listens to hate unique items with the fiery blazing fury of a million exploding suns and desire all unique items to have a quarter, at absolute best of the possible power of a half-assed five-chaos rare. Because spending a hundred hours a night grinding for the thirty exalts you need for a low/mid-tier 5L mapping bow you don't need to be ashamed of is "fun". That whole "Make Rares Great Again" idiocy.

So expect Reach to get pigf***ed to the tune of at least a hundred less pDPS, if not more. Basically, its GMP is no longer going to be 'free'. Frankly I fully expect them to outright eliminate the flat physical damage roll, turn Reach into a moderately maybe-not-shit AoE weapon with the single-target DPS of a blue driftwood wand.

The sad part? Essence crafting turns Rares into proto-Uniques with all those nonstandard available mods. Essence league will probably produce Harbingers more powerful than the universe has ever seen before, but we still gotta make sure nobody ever plays Reach again, eh?

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xxSerpentlordxx wrote:

Consider the low crit chance (6%) vs the 9.5% on a higher end harbinger

Harbinger wins pure phys
Harbinger wins Crit
Reach loses gem slot for crit chance to bring 6% up to 8% (imo)
Reach makes up phys because of no gmp penalty
Reach wins mana cost

A top notch reach really competes with a mirrored harb which means the drop rate is what really ought to be nerfed.

Please keep this item as is. I am sick of using lionglare for last 3.5 years (while I try to roll a harb all season). Maybe nerf the drop rate by 75% to keep it special.

There is other bow playstile than crit in this game (I know, amazing right ?). My hipster Avatar of Fire Elemental Overload LA Elementalist with 79% fire penetration murder absolutely EVERYTHING with Reach (I know Conflux is broken ^^).