Orion - the hunter - a god with the bow - cheap, insane DPS, fun as hell - Get ready for 2.5 version

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asdas111 wrote:

hi I love your build and i am trying to give it a go
i have a question tho
is it possible to get ci with this build?

It is possible, with less defences and damage, and it will alot more expensive,

I really don't suggest you do it CI

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rel4us wrote:

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alfaPOWA wrote:

Rel4us, why don't you specify the link setups you use?
I see that you use a faster setup in your profile. While you opt for a slower setup in the gear you have posted.

And the offensive/defensive pictures would REALLY help to analyze the build better.
If you need help with imagehosting to get the images into the thread i could help with that.

NP, i'll add pics of defence/offence in a day.

about link setup, the general is known, I don't make guides that don't leave some thought of the players.

added:

Defence:

without quicksilver flask



with quicksilver flask





Offence (note that I have 11 arrows, this is just tool tip):

gem setup barrage + FA + FP + ICS + ICD + pierce (the faster clear speed and less damage)

no charges



with charges



with charges + flask + vaal haste (full power mode)




gem setup barrage + PPAD + SP + ICS + ICD + pierce (the slower clear speed and more damage)

no charges



with charges



with charges + flask + vaal haste (full power mode)

If someone solves this riddle, he will find a way better bow than a Reach for this build.

369 * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2) * 1.5 * 8 = 20953
(202+213) * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2+1.5) * 1.5 * 6 = 27142

Nicely presented rel4us!
Now to the last question.
Would you mind explaining your dps calculation where you briefly says 21k x 270 or something similar?

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eragon1111 wrote:

If someone solves this riddle, he will find a way better bow than a Reach for this build.

369 * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2) * 1.5 * 8 = 20953*11(projectiles) = 230K
(202+213) * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2+1.5) * 1.5 * 6 = 27142*7?(projectiles) = 190K

bowdps*Pierce*slow.proj*(???+???)*PPaD*? = 20953 Help me think out the rest here people :D

What you didn't mention was the number of projectiles fired thou! 11 projectiles vs 7 i would assume?

The dual dps on the bow implies that you would use a weapon that hits with two different damagetypes(hopefully chaos and physical since only that transfers into poisondamage)

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alfaPOWA wrote:

Nicely presented rel4us!
Now to the last question.
Would you mind explaining your dps calculation where you briefly says 21k x 270 or something similar?

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eragon1111 wrote:

If someone solves this riddle, he will find a way better bow than a Reach for this build.

369 * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2) * 1.5 * 8 = 20953*11(projectiles) = 230K
(202+213) * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2+1.5) * 1.5 * 6 = 27142*7?(projectiles) = 190K

bowdps*Pierce*slow.proj*(???+???)*PPaD*? = 20953 Help me think out the rest here people :D

What you didn't mention was the number of projectiles fired thou! 11 projectiles vs 7 i would assume?

The dual dps on the bow implies that you would use a weapon that hits with two different damagetypes(hopefully chaos and physical since only that transfers into poisondamage)

I will make the calc again, did it a long time ago, and GGG posted that projectile weakness is not double dipping, so i need to recalc it, still, the DPS is out of scale as you all know :D

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alfaPOWA wrote:

Nicely presented rel4us!
Now to the last question.
Would you mind explaining your dps calculation where you briefly says 21k x 270 or something similar?

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eragon1111 wrote:

If someone solves this riddle, he will find a way better bow than a Reach for this build.

369 * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2) * 1.5 * 8 = 20953*11(projectiles) = 230K
(202+213) * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2+1.5) * 1.5 * 6 = 27142*7?(projectiles) = 190K

bowdps*Pierce*slow.proj*(???+???)*PPaD*? = 20953 Help me think out the rest here people :D

What you didn't mention was the number of projectiles fired thou! 11 projectiles vs 7 i would assume?

The dual dps on the bow implies that you would use a weapon that hits with two different damagetypes(hopefully chaos and physical since only that transfers into poisondamage)

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What you didn't mention was the number of projectiles fired thou! 11 projectiles vs 7 i would assume?

Number of projectiles was mentioned in either 8/6, if you want to calculate the full fest version you should replace 8 with 11 and 6 with 9.

I dont calculate +2 barrage helmet and +1 arrow from quiver on purpose :P

In your version it would be:

369 * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2) * 1.5 * 11 = 28810
(202+213) * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2+1.5) * 1.5 * 9 = 40713

The more arrows you add from external sources like helmet or quiver, the bow im talking about will be better and better... Because multiplier is way higher.

ps. the calculations are based only on weapon and 6l, all the other buffs from gear/tree are the same (-2 stacks of poison)

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eragon1111 wrote:

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alfaPOWA wrote:

Nicely presented rel4us!
Now to the last question.
Would you mind explaining your dps calculation where you briefly says 21k x 270 or something similar?

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eragon1111 wrote:

If someone solves this riddle, he will find a way better bow than a Reach for this build.

369 * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2) * 1.5 * 8 = 20953*11(projectiles) = 230K
(202+213) * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2+1.5) * 1.5 * 6 = 27142*7?(projectiles) = 190K

bowdps*Pierce*slow.proj*(???+???)*PPaD*? = 20953 Help me think out the rest here people :D

What you didn't mention was the number of projectiles fired thou! 11 projectiles vs 7 i would assume?

The dual dps on the bow implies that you would use a weapon that hits with two different damagetypes(hopefully chaos and physical since only that transfers into poisondamage)

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What you didn't mention was the number of projectiles fired thou! 11 projectiles vs 7 i would assume?

Number of projectiles was mentioned in either 8/6, if you want to calculate the full fest version you should replace 8 with 11 and 6 with 9.

I dont calculate +2 barrage helmet and +1 arrow from quiver on purpose :P

In your version it would be:

369 * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2) * 1.5 * 11 = 28810
(202+213) * 1.3 * 1.3 * (1.6+1.2+1.5) * 1.5 * 9 = 40713

The more arrows you add from external sources like helmet or quiver, the bow im talking about will be better and better... Because multiplier is way higher.

If your talking about death's opus then you can't calculate the damage twice just because if fires an additional arrow, that would go at the last multiplier instead of base damage :)

But i guess you haven't made that mistake. And i can't find the bow your talking about either :(

Ding ding - it is death's opus :) And im not calculating the damage twice x]

Additional arrows are added to (x projectiles) where X is 3 bow + 3 barrage + 2 helm + 1 quiver (9 two less than the Reach) but thanks to some magic and differences it has overall higher dps with less arrows.

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eragon1111 wrote:

Ding ding - it is death's opus :) And im not calculating the damage twice x]

Additional arrows are added to (x projectiles) where X is 3 bow + 3 barrage + 2 helm + 1 quiver (9 two less than the Reach) but thanks to some magic and differences it has overall higher dps with less arrows.

Death opus does not have more DPS, the damage per hit is almost the same, but reach got 2 more arrows, and the total for me is about 23% more damage with reach (I did the math before)

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rel4us wrote:

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eragon1111 wrote:

Ding ding - it is death's opus :) And im not calculating the damage twice x]

Additional arrows are added to (x projectiles) where X is 3 bow + 3 barrage + 2 helm + 1 quiver (9 two less than the Reach) but thanks to some magic and differences it has overall higher dps with less arrows.

Death opus does not have more DPS, the damage per hit is almost the same, but reach got 2 more arrows, and the total for me is about 23% more damage with reach (I did the math before)

415 dps seems like its more than ~360 reach :S compeltly discarding all the other mods of opus is plain wrong.