I got some Cigarettes

Does electric cigarette lasts longer than real cigarettes?

Sounds like a question that can only be answered by... Vape Nation!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkm8Hteeh6M

Last night I watched a co-worker complete his transition into stupidity.

At first he just wanted to be cool with the other vapors and bought his oils and vape box.

Last night the crew was taking a break and someone outside was hacking up a lung.

I go outside and the guy was using another chronic smokers vape box.

Turns out it was full on nicotine, he didn't care. He said " I need to get used to it and pop my cherry".


Another one addicted.

V/\

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quagsire1988 wrote:

Does electric cigarette lasts longer than real cigarettes?

No clue but I recently saw a guy catch on fire when the vaporizer in his pocket exploded. Safe my ass.

I've used one for 2 years and it was the best thing I have ever done to get off cigarettes.

+1 the above.

Going on 4 years now of daily use. An order of magnitude cheaper than cigarettes, I don't stink like ash, I can actually breathe again, and I'm not inhaling CO/tar/etc.



But hey, this is the internet and we need to shit on literally everything good in this world, so V/\ LOL WE GET IT YOU VAPE :100:

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pneuma wrote:

+1 the above.

Going on 4 years now of daily use. An order of magnitude cheaper than cigarettes, I don't stink like ash, I can actually breathe again, and I'm not inhaling CO/tar/etc.



But hey, this is the internet and we need to shit on literally everything good in this world, so V/\ LOL WE GET IT YOU VAPE :100:

A good thing? In your situation sure id agree but good is a stretch..

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/04/e-cigarettes-toxic-chemicals-research-finds-lung-damage

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TheWretch wrote:

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pneuma wrote:

+1 the above.

Going on 4 years now of daily use. An order of magnitude cheaper than cigarettes, I don't stink like ash, I can actually breathe again, and I'm not inhaling CO/tar/etc.



But hey, this is the internet and we need to shit on literally everything good in this world, so V/\ LOL WE GET IT YOU VAPE :100:

A good thing? In your situation sure id agree but good is a stretch..

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/04/e-cigarettes-toxic-chemicals-research-finds-lung-damage

From that article:
"E-cigarettes generated just 1% of the amount of free radicals in tobacco smoke, but this still posed a potential health risk, said the researchers."

The article is pretending like people who vape really have no clue and think that it's unicorn farts and magic dust. Of course, after creating this straw man, they then tear it down mercilessly.

Harm reduction is absolutely a good thing. It's not perfect, but there's a lot of incremental improvements in many areas -- short and long term health, cost, environmental effects, social effects. Enough to make the decision to switch a fairly painless one.

The real health scare of ecigs are, afaict:
- Using wicks for too long or running them too hot which causes burning of the wick material,
- Not cleaning the mouthpiece out often which increases risk of pneumonia,
- Buying poor quality electrical hardware or using damage hardware which is a fire hazard,
- Using untrustworthy sources for e-liquid, or using liquid containing flavorings that are harmful when boiled (but otherwise are GRAS).

I would love to see more papers talking about those things and more vendors working toward solutions for them.

If I were a conspiracy nut, I'd be convinced that attack articles, puffed-up studies, and anti-vaping internet bullshit are all paid for by incumbent tobacco companies that are losing revenue... but that would just be crazy and could never really happen, right? :P

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EDIT: Some more light reading.

+1 to above - I am tired of explaining to people that these things are better than cigarettes.
Not a perfect solution by any means but much better than those old cancer sticks.