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Funny, i find the opposite annoying. Where lazy people complain nothing ever drops for them. Where people claim to play 3000 hours without an exalt drop. Pff, so tired of these posts.
Not so much cosigning the "lazy" part, but the entire forum seems to be some form of "I am unlucky, therefore game is not fine."
It feels like bizarro world reading this thread title.
"Dude he fucking said hotdog racist.
Like I can't even make this shit up." - gj
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Posted bydickhole_mcgheeon Aug 28, 2015, 11:06:56 PM
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That's not entirely true. There are streamers getting beneficial treatments from their fanbase, and there are RMT'ers, and their friends and guildies who profit from the RMT'ers. All of them combined create an elite of sorts with which the rest of the playerbase generally cannot compete.
Unless you're talking about some stupid ladder race, YOU ARE NOT competing with them. And I don't just mean in some abstract metaphysical sense; I mean you are literally not competing with them.
There will always be monsters to kill. It's not like people are logging on and saying, "Oh shit too late, Etup killed ALL THE monsters... Might as well log off now."
"Dude he fucking said hotdog racist.
Like I can't even make this shit up." - gj
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Posted bydickhole_mcgheeon Aug 29, 2015, 12:33:29 AM
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Oh ok, I thought we were talking about real-time gameplay scenarios of restriction and not lag/extenuating circumstances. Of course lag, glitches and crashes are going to be the root cause for some failures - that holds true with ANY game in ANY genre. Stooping to that as your defense however, does not give your argument much merit. You know there are cheap, easy gem setups that prevent 1 shots right? Again, just a prime example of Frankenberry's 'unwillingness to adapt' concept.
You claim it is foolish to say the game is fine and that all or most situations can be looked back upon with the mindset of 'What could I have done better to force a different outcome?'
You sound like the biggest fool in the world to me - you are implying the opposite, that all or most situations are beyond my control and I am a victim of a rigged system that cannot be beat without certain unobtainable wealth. But yeah sure, the first mindset is the foolish one.
So you're just here to mindlessly kill things, got it. That's what a lot of the game is about, and you can get pretty far playing like that, but complaining about not being able to compete at the highest level because you refuse to play the game in it's entirety is an absolute joke.
It would be like me saying, 'Hey it's not fair I don't have the same opportunities as Mr. Neurosurgeon. I'm not here to go to school, study and improve myself, I'm really just here to fkn make hamburgers because that's what I love to do!'
And no, I will absolutely, positively NOT show any respect or goddamned sympathy (LOL?) for a player, regardless of age, that refuses to play the game IN IT'S ENTIRETY AS IT WAS MADE TO FKN BE PLAYED, because they're simply here to mindlessly fkn kill shit and not put any real effort or thought into a game they spend thousands of hours on.
Heh... In regards to the ingame topic of this thread, I'm almost totally on your side, but I think IRL you might be a horrible human being.
"Dude he fucking said hotdog racist.
Like I can't even make this shit up." - gj
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Posted bydickhole_mcgheeon Aug 29, 2015, 1:00:20 AM
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Oh ok, I thought we were talking about real-time gameplay scenarios of restriction and not lag/extenuating circumstances. Of course lag, glitches and crashes are going to be the root cause for some failures - that holds true with ANY game in ANY genre. Stooping to that as your defense however, does not give your argument much merit. You know there are cheap, easy gem setups that prevent 1 shots right? Again, just a prime example of Frankenberry's 'unwillingness to adapt' concept.
You claim it is foolish to say the game is fine and that all or most situations can be looked back upon with the mindset of 'What could I have done better to force a different outcome?'
You sound like the biggest fool in the world to me - you are implying the opposite, that all or most situations are beyond my control and I am a victim of a rigged system that cannot be beat without certain unobtainable wealth. But yeah sure, the first mindset is the foolish one.
So you're just here to mindlessly kill things, got it. That's what a lot of the game is about, and you can get pretty far playing like that, but complaining about not being able to compete at the highest level because you refuse to play the game in it's entirety is an absolute joke.
It would be like me saying, 'Hey it's not fair I don't have the same opportunities as Mr. Neurosurgeon. I'm not here to go to school, study and improve myself, I'm really just here to fkn make hamburgers because that's what I love to do!'
And no, I will absolutely, positively NOT show any respect or goddamned sympathy (LOL?) for a player, regardless of age, that refuses to play the game IN IT'S ENTIRETY AS IT WAS MADE TO FKN BE PLAYED, because they're simply here to mindlessly fkn kill shit and not put any real effort or thought into a game they spend thousands of hours on.
Heh... In regards to the ingame topic of this thread, I'm almost totally on your side, but I think IRL you might be a horrible human being.
Eh, my attitude here is the same as if I drove by a homeless man with a sign that read "I grew up in a wealthy family. I had every opportunity to succeed, but I just love to drink beer and sleep all day so I threw all of my potential success away. I'm sick and tired of all of these people saying 'I worked hard for my success, therefore life is fine.' " and I didn't give him any money or sympathy.
I'm not a bad person at all, I just volunteered with my fiance at a shelter for victims of human trafficking last week and it was amazing. I simply cannot stand the attitude of this 'new wave' of gamers that want everything handed to them on a silver platter, and if a game doesn't perfectly fit their mold of what they envisioned when they started playing it, they race to the forums to bitch and moan. The only sentiment I have for these people is GTFO - nobody cares.
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Posted byVauxon Aug 29, 2015, 10:58:23 AM
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RNG just gave me the 'ol "here! now stop complaining!"
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I still hate the bastard... but wow that's an incredible feeling Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
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Posted byjohnKeyson Aug 29, 2015, 11:10:06 AM
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RNG just gave me the 'ol "here! now stop complaining!"
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I still hate the bastard... but wow that's an incredible feeling
But how was the risk vs. reward?
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Posted byTheWretchon Aug 29, 2015, 12:46:11 PM
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Funny, i find the opposite annoying. Where lazy people complain nothing ever drops for them. Where people claim to play 3000 hours without an exalt drop. Pff, so tired of these posts.
Not so much cosigning the "lazy" part, but the entire forum seems to be some form of "I am unlucky, therefore game is not fine."
It feels like bizarro world reading this thread title.
Maybe i should have said 'lazy'. I don't mean that people per definition are lazy when nothing drops. But sadly it's usually the people that don't do any farming that complain the most.
Everyone forgets the big upside with RNG. It WILL reward you eventually.
This league in warband, i had very few drops up to yesterday, a kaom's heart + a carcass jack in a couple maps. I just don't play with the expectation something has to drop for me every map. So when it finally does, it's oh so sweet!
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Posted byMiskáon Aug 29, 2015, 2:18:32 PM
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But sadly it's usually the people that don't do any farming that complain the most.
Everyone forgets the big upside with RNG. It WILL reward you eventually.
the question is, how much farming? and what is "eventually"?
I'm extremely happy right now, because RNG just gave me my first ever Fused 6-link.
but... that's not a "earned it" happy.
it's the kind of happy you get, when you win a Lottery, or the dice in the Casino fall where you hoped them to be.
fun, but two different flavors of it.
I wish, the 2nd flavor would be more dominant: earning, rather than just luck.
I mean... I beat Merciless Malachai for the first time, 15 minutes after this feat of insane luck. and the drops from him were as expected, by someone who played PoE for as long as I have: utter trash. only one piece was actually worth spending a Wisdom Scroll on - and then I left it on the floor.
and please don't automatically pull out the "but.. trade!" argument.
trade isn't "earning" in the ARPG sense.
it's working a day job in Wraeclast, running the same thing repeatedly (a.k.a "grind" the way only Grinding Gear can make) for a salary in scraps, then use your Exalt-encrusted Credit Card for that Kaom's Heart you always wanted.
I know some people like it, and I can somewhat understand even though I hate it with a passion.
but the same people who then give people like me the "your argument is invalid because you hate trade" (or worse. see OP) - simply do not get the point.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
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Posted byjohnKeyson Aug 29, 2015, 2:45:25 PM
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But sadly it's usually the people that don't do any farming that complain the most.
Everyone forgets the big upside with RNG. It WILL reward you eventually.
the question is, how much farming? and what is "eventually"?
I'm extremely happy right now, because RNG just gave me my first ever Fused 6-link.
but... that's not a "earned it" happy.
it's the kind of happy you get, when you win a Lottery, or the dice in the Casino fall where you hoped them to be.
fun, but two different flavors of it.
I wish, the 2nd flavor would be more dominant: earning, rather than just luck.
and please don't automatically pull out the "but.. trade!" argument.
trade isn't "earning" in the ARPG sense.
it's working a day job in Wraeclast, running the same thing repeatedly (a.k.a "grind" the way only Grinding Gear can make) for a salary in scraps, then use your Exalt-encrusted Credit Card for that Kaom's Heart you always wanted.
I know some people like it, and I can somewhat understand even though I hate it with a passion.
but the same people who then give people like me the "your argument is invalid because you hate trade" (or worse. see OP) - simply do not get the point.
If something drops for me that is worth 5ex, and i need something else that is worth 5ex, i would call that earning it myself. Just because you feel differently doesn't make it a fact.
And when enough is enough? I don't really know. RNG is RNG in the end. But people that claim to have played for 3000h and never seen an exalt drop are just full of bullshit. I have had 10 drop just this league. Maybe that's on the luck side abit, or maybe that's unlucky. But the point is everyone who played the amount of hours this league like me will probably have around the same number of exalts drop.
Every patch selffound is getting more love imo. Just look at the state of it now vs 1.1. It got so much better. The only i can't grasp though is why someone who despises trade, is so unhappy about a function ingame that they don't use. Why are you upset other people DO like to trade and get their stuff quicker that way.
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Posted byMiskáon Aug 29, 2015, 2:55:06 PM
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I'm not stating facts. I'm trying to get my opinion across so you'll understand.
you don't need to agree. just understand.
but reading your post, I realize you will never understand.
especially lines such as:
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But the point is everyone who played the amount of hours this league like me will probably have around the same number of exalts drop.
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But people that claim to have played for 3000h and never seen an exalt drop are just full of bullshit
and you do indeed state it as a fact, only because you dropped 10 Exalts in one League.
classic "I'm lucky. game is fine" attitude. Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
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Posted byjohnKeyson Aug 29, 2015, 3:05:55 PM
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