[2.0] Scion Phys Bow Build

Hey everyone,

I kind need some thoughts in this new build I`m trying out.

My goal is to get a good suvirvability (from evasion nodes, life and possibly acrobatics) and high dmg going from phys dmg with bonus ele dmg based on phys and a decent crit chance.

I`m currently lvl 44 in warbands (softcore) new league.

I found quite difficult to find decent upgrades, had to craft blue bow and quiver to go act 4 normal, i.e.. The lack of gear made me more of a spectator (must have beaten the world record of deaths in boss figths) and I am trying to figure out if its the missed gear that I am suffering of or if I have to re-roll.
(For the record, as soon as I arrived at A1 Cruel I rearrenged gems and gear. I 2-shot white mobs, idk i have the feeling that I should 1-shot them)

So here it goes how I am playing and my plans(and doubts) for the future.

This is my current alocate passives (Have 2 passives yet to allocate)

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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABBbUIiSLqJIsqTTIBMpQ_J0rISwpLV1FHUUxaUl1oX7BhBm8Ib55xoX1bfwKDCYhbjb-PT5UFmvGbJptdm7Wm4KiaqTSsR7ALsTCyGbUIt9nA48M6ykrKqc962cbo1usU8bPylw==

112% Evasion
24% proj dmg
227% phys dmg
26% life
31% Attack Speed



And my planning was to reach this build:

Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAO4DHgW1BiMIiQ2ND6sUdRUgFr8fQSF2Iuoj9iSLJT8mlSpNLOkwfDGeMgEyCTKUNZI2PTrhPydKfUrISwpLV02STeNRR1FMVUtaUluvXWheRV-wYQZh4mKsbEZsjG1sbqpvCG-ecaFybHvDfVt_AoMJhMWGs4bOh3aIW419jb-PT5LzlQWa8Zsmm12btZ2qplem4KiaqTSr0qxHsAuxMLIZtQi1SLXyt9nA48EzwzrIzMpKyqnPeti92cbajd0N32_jn-jW74_xs_JF8pf66_4K_o8=

157% Life
57% Attack Speed
100% Crit Chance
50% Cold dmg
289% Phys dmg
64% Proj dmg
160% Evasion



There is some issues/doubts I'd like to address.
(I read some theorycraft threads but didn't helped that much, I hope some of you do.)

1. Main Gem: I'm currently using Ice Shot.
I don't many ppl using it, thats not a problem. The thing is: if there is any bow skill that is much better and idk of, is there?

As using phys dmg I could get any ele gem that adds ele dmg based on phys. My thoughts on this is:

Spoiler
Ice Shot: Freeze/Chill (CC), Shatter (good vs. Summoners), close and able to get +50% clustter, Hatred adds % based on phys dmg.

Burning Arrow: Adds (possibly) burning dmg.

Physical To lightning: bonus dmg, could change some passives and get Arcing blows.

Frezy: secondary skill to get charges.

Puncture: Seems really good, actually afraid of reflect physical and of effectiness in bosses.




2. Mittigation: I currently using Ice Shot + Hatred so when I get to 'Fangs of Frost' I would bennefit the most from it. Although, running Hatred would make possible to run only one defensive aura (possibly AA or PoE) leaving Grace out. Idk if that is big loss and I am really in doubt if its worth to get Acrobatics and Phase Acrobatics Keystone.

3. Life: I want to be a non-squishy char so maps are smothier later on. That said, on passive tree I have 157% more life on lvl 85. Just passed A4 norm I have the feeling that its not enough. What would be the recommended for Awakening?

I haven’t allocated leech life also. idk how badly the nerf to leech was and I am not that far from Vitallity Void but then I would have to remove other nodes. Probably dps ones.

4. Pierce: I am really close pierce shots cluster and to me it looks like it could speed up farm and general lvling since I could kill more mobs/hit. With a Pierce Support Gem I could get close to 80-90% pierce. Any cons (besides reflect)?

5. Attack Speed: I want to have a decent amount of APS, but I don’t want to have so many low dmg attacks. And other problem is the mana sustain, more attacks more mana needed that would probably require mana leech. In the tree I have 57% more attack speed alone.

6. Critical Chance: From what I see in other builds the easiest way to get to high DPS is to set up a good crit chance. The way it looks I would get by 40ish% crit chance (bow with implicit mod + 120-150ish% from gear + 100% from gem + 100% from passives), is that reliable? Would I be screwed on reflect mobs?


I know it’s a lot of stuff. I read and didn’t find answers that could solve all this doubts and I am kinda in a hurry to know if a Scion phys bow build is a good/solid build for map farm or if I should just reroll.

That’s all. Tyvm for those with the time (and patience) to read and help.

Last edited by Vorbek on Jul 12, 2015, 12:59:52 AM
any help?
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCC4IiQqbDY0VIBa_GY4ZtB9BIXYi6iP2JP0lPyaVKgstgzBxMHwx-jIBMpQ2PTnUOkI7KD7PSn1LeE2SUUdVS1uvXWhfsGBDYeJirGVNbIxtbG49b55wUnGhdct293cHfXV_An8rgwmExYbOhxOHdowLjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZyknaqgn6GkpuCn1KvSsTCyGbUItUi5fLvjvTa95r6AvqfBM8FJwzrEosjcykrKqc96037UI9aK2cbajdwV3Q3dqOHb45_nCudU53To1upi7LDtg-968-r2o_4d_rr-yP_e

Try this passive tree instead. You can drop frenzy charge and/or Quickstep notable to get more life if you want. Split arrow is the strongest bow skill at the moment. For single target you can use puncture or frenzy.

Main skill link:
Split Arrow - Chain - PPAD - WED - Physical to Lightning - Faster Attacks or Slower Projectiles

Puncture link:
Puncture - PPAD - Slower Projectiles - Inc. Crit. Damage - Inc. Crit. Strikes

Frenzy link:
Frenzy - PPAD - WED - Physical to Lightning - Slower Projectiles - Added Fire Damage
Some of you exiles are alright. Don't go to Highgate tomorrow.
"
Shadow_Flash wrote:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCC4IiQqbDY0VIBa_GY4ZtB9BIXYi6iP2JP0lPyaVKgstgzBxMHwx-jIBMpQ2PTnUOkI7KD7PSn1LeE2SUUdVS1uvXWhfsGBDYeJirGVNbIxtbG49b55wUnGhdct293cHfXV_An8rgwmExYbOhxOHdowLjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZyknaqgn6GkpuCn1KvSsTCyGbUItUi5fLvjvTa95r6AvqfBM8FJwzrEosjcykrKqc96037UI9aK2cbajdwV3Q3dqOHb45_nCudU53To1upi7LDtg-968-r2o_4d_rr-yP_e

Try this passive tree instead. You can drop frenzy charge and/or Quickstep notable to get more life if you want. Split arrow is the strongest bow skill at the moment. For single target you can use puncture or frenzy.

Main skill link:
Split Arrow - Chain - PPAD - WED - Physical to Lightning - Faster Attacks or Slower Projectiles

Puncture link:
Puncture - PPAD - Slower Projectiles - Inc. Crit. Damage - Inc. Crit. Strikes

Frenzy link:
Frenzy - PPAD - WED - Physical to Lightning - Slower Projectiles - Added Fire Damage


Do you have a full guide?
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JuvenileMango wrote:
Do you have a full guide?

Not really. I just slapped the tree together in a minute and it wasn't optimized. This is a generic physical bow passive tree and it's pretty much the same as others.

Bandits: Oak - Oak - Kraityn
Thanks to the damage multiplier frenzy charges are way better than power charges now.

Leveling trees would be something like these:
Spoiler
20 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YPqxa_IuokiyaVOyhfsGBDYeJuPW-ecaGDCY9Pm7WxMLUIwzrKSg==


35 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAx4DlgW1BiMPqxa_H0Ei6iSLJpUwcTpCOyhLeFVLX7BgQ2Hibj1vnnGhgwmMNo2_j0-btbEwtQi1SL6AwzrKStQj3ajo1g==


50 Points:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAx4DlgW1BiMIiRa_H0Ei6iaVMHEwfDY9OkI7KEt4UUdVS11oX7BgQ2HiYqxsjG1sbj1vnnGhgwmExYw2jb-PT5UFmvGbtZ2qsTC1CLVIvoDBScM6yNzKSsqp1CPdqOd06Nb-HQ==

(Try to get Spirit Void cluster as soon as possible)

70 Points:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCIkWvx9BIuoj9iaVMHEwfDKUNj06QjsoS3hNklFHVUtdaF-wYENh4mKsbIxtbG49b55xoX11fwKDCYTFjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZ2qoaSm4KfUsTC1CLVIu-O-gMFJwzrEosjcykrKqdN-1CPZxtwV3ajh2-d06Nb-Hf66_sg=


90 Points:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCIkWvx9BIuoj9iT9JpUqCzBxMHwx-jIBMpQ2PTnUOkI7KD7PS3hNklFHVUtVhV1oX7BgQ2HiYqxsjG1sbj1vnnBScaF29311fwJ_K4MJhMWMNo19jb-PT5UFmvGbJpu1naqgn6Gkpcum4KfUsTCyGbUItUi7473mvoDBScM6xKLI3MpKyqnPetN-1CPWitnG3BXdqOHb51TndOjW73rz6v4d_rr-yP_e


105 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCIkVIBa_GbQfQSF2Iuoj9iT9JT8mlSoLLYMwcTB8MfoyATKUNj051DpCOyg-z0t4TZJRR1VLVYVbr11oX7BgQ2HiYqxsjG1sbj1vnnBScaF1y3b3fXV_An8rgwmExYbOjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZ2qoJ-hpKXLpuCn1KvSsTCyGbUItUi7473mvoC-p8EzwUnDOsSiyNzKSsqpz3rTftQj1orZxtqN3BXdDd2o4dvnVOd06NbqYu968-r2o_4d_rr-yP_e


120 Points:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCC4IiQ2NFSAWvxmOGbQfQSF2Iuoj9iT9JT8mlSoLLYMwcTB8MfoyATKUNj051DpCOyg-z0p9S3hNklFHVUtVhVuvXWhfsGBDYeJirGVNbIxtbG49b55wUnGhdct293cHfXV_An8rgwmExYbOhxOHdowLjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZyknaqgn6Gkpcum4KfUq9KxMLIZtQi1SLl8u-O9Nr3mvoC-p8EzwUnDOsSiyNzKSsqpz3rTftQj1orZxtqN3BXdDd2o4dvjn-dU53To1upi7LDtg-968-r2o_4d_rr-yP_e
Some of you exiles are alright. Don't go to Highgate tomorrow.
"
Shadow_Flash wrote:
"
JuvenileMango wrote:
Do you have a full guide?

Not really. I just slapped the tree together in a minute and it wasn't optimized. This is a generic physical bow passive tree and it's pretty much the same as others.

Bandits: Oak - Oak - Kraityn
Thanks to the damage multiplier frenzy charges are way better than power charges now.

Leveling trees would be something like these:
Spoiler
20 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YPqxa_IuokiyaVOyhfsGBDYeJuPW-ecaGDCY9Pm7WxMLUIwzrKSg==


35 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAx4DlgW1BiMPqxa_H0Ei6iSLJpUwcTpCOyhLeFVLX7BgQ2Hibj1vnnGhgwmMNo2_j0-btbEwtQi1SL6AwzrKStQj3ajo1g==


50 Points:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAx4DlgW1BiMIiRa_H0Ei6iaVMHEwfDY9OkI7KEt4UUdVS11oX7BgQ2HiYqxsjG1sbj1vnnGhgwmExYw2jb-PT5UFmvGbtZ2qsTC1CLVIvoDBScM6yNzKSsqp1CPdqOd06Nb-HQ==

(Try to get Spirit Void cluster as soon as possible)

70 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCIkWvx9BIuoj9iaVMHEwfDKUNj06QjsoS3hNklFHVUtdaF-wYENh4mKsbIxtbG49b55xoX11fwKDCYTFjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZ2qoaSm4KfUsTC1CLVIu-O-gMFJwzrEosjcykrKqdN-1CPZxtwV3ajh2-d06Nb-Hf66_sg=


90 Points:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCIkWvx9BIuoj9iT9JpUqCzBxMHwx-jIBMpQ2PTnUOkI7KD7PS3hNklFHVUtVhV1oX7BgQ2HiYqxsjG1sbj1vnnBScaF29311fwJ_K4MJhMWMNo19jb-PT5UFmvGbJpu1naqgn6Gkpcum4KfUsTCyGbUItUi7473mvoDBScM6xKLI3MpKyqnPetN-1CPWitnG3BXdqOHb51TndOjW73rz6v4d_rr-yP_e


105 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCIkVIBa_GbQfQSF2Iuoj9iT9JT8mlSoLLYMwcTB8MfoyATKUNj051DpCOyg-z0t4TZJRR1VLVYVbr11oX7BgQ2HiYqxsjG1sbj1vnnBScaF1y3b3fXV_An8rgwmExYbOjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZ2qoJ-hpKXLpuCn1KvSsTCyGbUItUi7473mvoC-p8EzwUnDOsSiyNzKSsqpz3rTftQj1orZxtqN3BXdDd2o4dvnVOd06NbqYu968-r2o_4d_rr-yP_e


120 Points:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCC4IiQ2NFSAWvxmOGbQfQSF2Iuoj9iT9JT8mlSoLLYMwcTB8MfoyATKUNj051DpCOyg-z0p9S3hNklFHVUtVhVuvXWhfsGBDYeJirGVNbIxtbG49b55wUnGhdct293cHfXV_An8rgwmExYbOhxOHdowLjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZyknaqgn6Gkpcum4KfUq9KxMLIZtQi1SLl8u-O9Nr3mvoC-p8EzwUnDOsSiyNzKSsqpz3rTftQj1orZxtqN3BXdDd2o4dvjn-dU53To1upi7LDtg-968-r2o_4d_rr-yP_e


Thanks, I just didn't want to "make my own" crappy character.
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Shadow_Flash wrote:
"
JuvenileMango wrote:
Do you have a full guide?

Not really. I just slapped the tree together in a minute and it wasn't optimized. This is a generic physical bow passive tree and it's pretty much the same as others.

Bandits: Oak - Oak - Kraityn
Thanks to the damage multiplier frenzy charges are way better than power charges now.

Leveling trees would be something like these:
Spoiler
20 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YPqxa_IuokiyaVOyhfsGBDYeJuPW-ecaGDCY9Pm7WxMLUIwzrKSg==


35 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAx4DlgW1BiMPqxa_H0Ei6iSLJpUwcTpCOyhLeFVLX7BgQ2Hibj1vnnGhgwmMNo2_j0-btbEwtQi1SL6AwzrKStQj3ajo1g==


50 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAx4DlgW1BiMIiRa_H0Ei6iaVMHEwfDY9OkI7KEt4UUdVS11oX7BgQ2HiYqxsjG1sbj1vnnGhgwmExYw2jb-PT5UFmvGbtZ2qsTC1CLVIvoDBScM6yNzKSsqp1CPdqOd06Nb-HQ==

(Try to get Spirit Void cluster as soon as possible)

70 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCIkWvx9BIuoj9iaVMHEwfDKUNj06QjsoS3hNklFHVUtdaF-wYENh4mKsbIxtbG49b55xoX11fwKDCYTFjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZ2qoaSm4KfUsTC1CLVIu-O-gMFJwzrEosjcykrKqdN-1CPZxtwV3ajh2-d06Nb-Hf66_sg=


90 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCIkWvx9BIuoj9iT9JpUqCzBxMHwx-jIBMpQ2PTnUOkI7KD7PS3hNklFHVUtVhV1oX7BgQ2HiYqxsjG1sbj1vnnBScaF29311fwJ_K4MJhMWMNo19jb-PT5UFmvGbJpu1naqgn6Gkpcum4KfUsTCyGbUItUi7473mvoDBScM6xKLI3MpKyqnPetN-1CPWitnG3BXdqOHb51TndOjW73rz6v4d_rr-yP_e


105 Points:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCIkVIBa_GbQfQSF2Iuoj9iT9JT8mlSoLLYMwcTB8MfoyATKUNj051DpCOyg-z0t4TZJRR1VLVYVbr11oX7BgQ2HiYqxsjG1sbj1vnnBScaF1y3b3fXV_An8rgwmExYbOjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZ2qoJ-hpKXLpuCn1KvSsTCyGbUItUi7473mvoC-p8EzwUnDOsSiyNzKSsqpz3rTftQj1orZxtqN3BXdDd2o4dvnVOd06NbqYu968-r2o_4d_rr-yP_e


120 Points:
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAF4DHgOWBbUF-QYjCC4IiQ2NFSAWvxmOGbQfQSF2Iuoj9iT9JT8mlSoLLYMwcTB8MfoyATKUNj051DpCOyg-z0p9S3hNklFHVUtVhVuvXWhfsGBDYeJirGVNbIxtbG49b55wUnGhdct293cHfXV_An8rgwmExYbOhxOHdowLjDaNfY2_j0-VBZrxmyabtZyknaqgn6Gkpcum4KfUq9KxMLIZtQi1SLl8u-O9Nr3mvoC-p8EzwUnDOsSiyNzKSsqpz3rTftQj1orZxtqN3BXdDd2o4dvjn-dU53To1upi7LDtg-968-r2o_4d_rr-yP_e


Question, how do I not die? I'm not sure if I'm playing wrong, but I feel really squishy and that I could die at anytime.

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