Melee still not good

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Dark_Chicken wrote:

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Wispo wrote:

Still, 2h weapons are beasts in dps. For the very rich, go to see a Pain sunder (vaal axe). 880 dps O.O

that seemingly high dps is nothing more than a newbie trap

all that exalts to get a copy better spent on a top mirrored wand, bow, SRS staff, dagger, 1h foil etc. take your pick

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Dark_Chicken wrote:

sure, with any mirrored weap you should be able to kill stuff fast and easily, no diffrence with RT cyclone which has less tooltip dps than crit.

we're talking about balance though for the majority, which shouldn't involve mirrored weaps as part of the debate for obvious reasons

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calistho wrote:

With that damage reduction the only things I can get 1shoted by are Brutus/Kole/Vaal smash. These attacks are slow for a reason (not spoiling them).
If you get 1shot from anything else get more HP/ES.

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Saltygames wrote:

Ive been trying to do a evasion based melee build, and keep getting one-shotted by non avoidable attacks (exploding spike goliaths with incr crit multi).

Sigh, I guess for 2.0 I need to run armor, since I can't even use cwdt combo

Suuuure, I can still manually cast. But is it fun? Nope.

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Exialis wrote:

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Saltygames wrote:

Ive been trying to do a evasion based melee build, and keep getting one-shotted by non avoidable attacks (exploding spike goliaths with incr crit multi).

Sigh, I guess for 2.0 I need to run armor, since I can't even use cwdt combo

Suuuure, I can still manually cast. But is it fun? Nope.

Try Vengence with Endurance Charge on Melee Stun. Won't fix it, but will alleviate the problem a bit.

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Saltygames wrote:

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Exialis wrote:

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Saltygames wrote:

Ive been trying to do a evasion based melee build, and keep getting one-shotted by non avoidable attacks (exploding spike goliaths with incr crit multi).

Sigh, I guess for 2.0 I need to run armor, since I can't even use cwdt combo

Suuuure, I can still manually cast. But is it fun? Nope.

Try Vengence with Endurance Charge on Melee Stun. Won't fix it, but will alleviate the problem a bit.

running a CoC build, so not alot of damage from weapons :/

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pookyfied wrote:

Fortify is not good enough GGG. Ranged builds are still far superior to melee. Melee builds can still get 1 shot with 90% phys dps reduction and fortify. That is no fun...

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Wiesl_1404 wrote:

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pookyfied wrote:

Fortify is not good enough GGG. Ranged builds are still far superior to melee. Melee builds can still get 1 shot with 90% phys dps reduction and fortify. That is no fun...

Ranged Attack characters and casters also can get onehot by phyiscal damage and currently even easily 2- or 3shot in beta (and get stunlocked). It is great fun (really, it is!). Casters don't have access to physical damage mitgation in any kind of form besides armour and good old arctic armour (which is very hard to sustain constantly) atm. Ranged attack characters can go hybrid AR/EV at best. Both can utilize Acrobatics for defenses but the keystone doesn't prevent oneshots either.


Even with fortify up mobs and bosses feel very scary and it is even more scary when your fortify drops for a few seconds when you don't refresh it in time.

TLDR: Fortify alone won't save you or make you immune to certain situations - layers of multiple defences is the way to go as always :^)