Gameplay Help and Discussion - Feels like EK could be a little stronger. - Forum

" Tempada wrote: " Snorkle_uk wrote: Mind driker doesnt work btw, physical attacks, its a spell so sadly no joy with that node. This. Yeah, should've mentioned that Snorkle has a cool build too, it just hasn't been updated in a while and you need great gear to get his kind of dps. Range. Good point there. The base range of EK should really be increased. It's pretty pathetic if you don't have Faster Projectiles, even with projectile speed on a wand and Sniper + Ballistic Mastery on the tree. EK's totally doable as CI, but I think it may not be as tanky as you expect unless you do something like Incandescent Heart + Aegis or Pledge of Hands. Life builds have the benefit of being able to take Phase Acro (and still run AA) with the right gear, and chaos damage is annoying but easily avoided as long as you have some movement speed (or Lightning Warp). ya i havent update that in a long while, Ill do a revamp for Act4 Im sure. Dunno if you saw this http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1121449 specced out a dps witch spec, dual wield dark arts, hit like 6 casts per second with ek, 48,500 dps with no charges or flasks, no crit gems in the links, the damage was pretty wild but I feel like youd need a lvl93/94 char to do this and have solid survivability.	Posted by Snorkle_uk on Mar 16, 2015, 2:42:03 PM Quote this Post
" Snorkle_uk wrote: ya i havent update that in a long while, Ill do a revamp for Act4 Im sure. Dunno if you saw this http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1121449 specced out a dps witch spec, dual wield dark arts, hit like 6 casts per second with ek, 48,500 dps with no charges or flasks, no crit gems in the links, the damage was pretty wild but I feel like youd need a lvl93/94 char to do this and have solid survivability. Oh cool, looking forward to a revamp, and I didn't see that. I like the armour stacking to help with physical reflect. Is it weak against elemental damage? I guess it doesn't matter too much if you dispose of enemies quickly. That Skull Crusher Vaal Sceptre is so damn sexy. Dreamfeather Elemental Cleave Ranger: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1087616	Posted by Tempada on Mar 16, 2015, 3:06:28 PM Quote this Post
I honestly feel like many other spells/skills are at times TOO strong DPS-wise, and EK is just right. But if you want to make it match the rest of the spells (without OP gear), it simply needs more Base Range (removing the need for the Faster Projectiles gem), allowing for Phys to Light instead, giving it the DPS boost it deserves. In other news, I can pass 70K non-crit, just saying :D 6K Life AA 24 / Haste 22 / Clarity 22 / Hatred 22 / Herald of Ash Dodge 40/45 [3.22] 💀The Grim Reaper💀 - Hexblast Poison Mines Assassin https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3347191 [3.22] ❄️⚡CantripN's Hadoken! - Lightning Conduit / Crackling Lance / Arc Permafreeze⚡❄️ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3229590 Last edited by CantripN on Mar 16, 2015, 5:20:35 PM	Posted by CantripN on Mar 16, 2015, 5:16:18 PM Quote this Post
" CantripN wrote: In other news, I can pass 70K non-crit, just saying :D 6K Life AA 24 / Haste 22 / Clarity 22 / Hatred 22 / Herald of Ash Dodge 40/45 70k with or without Fast. Proj. Gem? Pupicitas: lv. 100 Shadow [2.1] Guide for Life based Crit Dagger Reave Shadow: /994474 EU Officer of Umbra Exiles: /732431	Posted by candoerfer on Mar 16, 2015, 5:36:11 PM Quote this Post
" CantripN wrote: I honestly feel like many other spells/skills are at times TOO strong DPS-wise, and EK is just right. But if you want to make it match the rest of the spells (without OP gear), it simply needs more Base Range (removing the need for the Faster Projectiles gem), allowing for Phys to Light instead, giving it the DPS boost it deserves. In other news, I can pass 70K non-crit, just saying :D 6K Life AA 24 / Haste 22 / Clarity 22 / Hatred 22 / Herald of Ash Dodge 40/45 Proj speed should be made into EK's quality, current quality is trash. This way it would also give nice progression feeling as it is with Freezing Pulse now.	Posted by Grughal on Mar 16, 2015, 5:36:32 PM Quote this Post
" candoerfer wrote: " CantripN wrote: In other news, I can pass 70K non-crit, just saying :D 6K Life AA 24 / Haste 22 / Clarity 22 / Hatred 22 / Herald of Ash Dodge 40/45 70k with or without Fast. Proj. Gem? Without. With, I get 55K max. [3.22] 💀The Grim Reaper💀 - Hexblast Poison Mines Assassin https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3347191 [3.22] ❄️⚡CantripN's Hadoken! - Lightning Conduit / Crackling Lance / Arc Permafreeze⚡❄️ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3229590	Posted by CantripN on Mar 16, 2015, 11:03:42 PM Quote this Post
" CantripN wrote: " candoerfer wrote: " CantripN wrote: In other news, I can pass 70K non-crit, just saying :D 6K Life AA 24 / Haste 22 / Clarity 22 / Hatred 22 / Herald of Ash Dodge 40/45 70k with or without Fast. Proj. Gem? Without. With, I get 55K max. deceiving tooltip dps as usual. large chunk of it is elemntal damage with no penetration gem, sure nice dmg against overcapped resists. no pierce/range included means even a spell like ice nova, nevermind fotm like lameblast/discharge, with lower tooltip dps can clear mobs much faster	Posted by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015, 1:19:16 AM Banned
My Range is over a screen away, almost 1.5 screens (with the FP gem), but the point about the Elemental damage is true, especially with Phys to Light. But then, I use: Spoiler [3.22] 💀The Grim Reaper💀 - Hexblast Poison Mines Assassin https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3347191 [3.22] ❄️⚡CantripN's Hadoken! - Lightning Conduit / Crackling Lance / Arc Permafreeze⚡❄️ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3229590 Last edited by CantripN on Mar 17, 2015, 1:33:02 AM	Posted by CantripN on Mar 17, 2015, 1:31:44 AM Quote this Post
" CantripN wrote: My Range is over a screen away, almost 1.5 screens (with the FP gem), but the point about the Elemental damage is true, especially with Phys to Light. But then, I use: Spoiler see thats the stupid thing, no pierce means even with 9999 range you will only be hitting around 8monsters at a time (since probably a few knives will hit empty air), whereas a spell with lower dps but better area/auto pierce can kill entire mob with a few casts. they should change the quality of ek gem to improve range instead so that you can use pierce for mobs	Posted by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015, 1:40:14 AM Banned
Pierce is a terrible, terrible, terrible support. EK needs a built-in Chance to Pierce (perhaps tied to Q), and certainly a Base Range boost. For a while, I was using the 40% Pierce from the tree, it was noticable. For Solo, no need for Pierce as you one-shot, but for Parties, it's almost essential. [3.22] 💀The Grim Reaper💀 - Hexblast Poison Mines Assassin https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3347191 [3.22] ❄️⚡CantripN's Hadoken! - Lightning Conduit / Crackling Lance / Arc Permafreeze⚡❄️ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3229590 Last edited by CantripN on Mar 17, 2015, 1:45:46 AM	Posted by CantripN on Mar 17, 2015, 1:43:51 AM Quote this Post