Marco Rubio Breaking the Silence about the Situation in Venezuela

Last edited by Samkiud on Feb 28, 2015, 6:31:06 PM
Hate to disappoint you, but the situation where you live was brought about by your own people. Your government actively thumbed its noses at many other nations as it had oil money.

You have my sympathies for what is going on, but Rubio is only using it to score points against the President to try and win over the Hispanic vote. It is cold blooded politics as usual.
Oppression is intolerable. I agree wholeheartedly.
But what i hear is a call to destructive action. Not a solution. If you notice a neighbor kicking his dog which barked and growled at him, you dont go over with a shotgun and blow him away or tell everyone on the block what a terrible person he is. How would such justice help?

I dont know much about the situation, ill admit. But surely applying additional pressure to the venezuela government would only lead to either a revolution or an increase in heavy handed tactics, both of which carry enormous risks for its populace. Or does anyone really believe their government would just roll over and comply with whatever the US president asks?
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Moonyu wrote:
Hate to disappoint you, but the situation where you live was brought about by your own people.

Wrong. The percentage of the people that support the chavism government (even when Chávez was alive) is really low, but the electoral system is corrupted and controlled by the government itself and the elections were manipulated. So the responsible for the current situation is not the people, but "the ones that are plugged to the power" (as the Venezuelan people call them): Maduro and his team.

And... does it really matter the truly intentions behind the speech, and even the reasons what led to what? I mean, no one but the Venezuelans knows, by flesh and bones, how desperate is the situation here. Or do you really think the circumstances that led to the French Revolution could be handled in a softly way?
Last edited by Samkiud on Feb 28, 2015, 8:26:47 PM
I do not dismiss what is happening at all. But you stated it yourself. Corruption. Lead by who? Your own people putting themselves ahead of the rest of the country. Its a common story through out time.

Majority of the world merely want to live their lives quietly. Greed for power and money by the few are the root causes behind it all. Nothing I can say to you will change that.


Stay safe.
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Samkiud wrote:


Wrong. The percentage of the people that support the chavism government (even when Chávez was alive) is really low, but the electoral system is corrupted and controlled by the government itself and the elections were manipulated. So the responsible for the current situation is not the people, but "the ones that are plugged to the power" (as the Venezuelan people call them): Maduro and his team.

And... does it really matter the truly intentions behind the speech, and even the reasons what led to what? I mean, none of you lives in the country to know by flesh and bones how desperate is the situation here. Or do you really think the circumstances that led to the French Revolution could be handled in a softly way?


How desperate is the situation?
For years i searched for deep truths. A thousand revelations. At the very edge...the ability to think itself dissolves away.Thinking in human language is the problem. Any separation from 'the whole truth' is incomplete.My incomplete concepts may add to your 'whole truth', accept it or think about it
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SkyCore wrote:
How desperate is the situation?


See the dates, some are not updated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cx6rgyicGo

Human rights violation in Venezuela

The Venezuelan Crisis Explained in 60 Seconds

Venezuela Crisis explained in 90 seconds

A really good dummie video, if you know anything about Venezuela (not even where is located): Venezuela Protests Explained in 5 Minutes

What's Going On In Venezuela in 5 Minutes

Venezuela The Protests Explained

Venezuela's economic crisis explained

A random day buying food for your family:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJIjlitYRj8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ajw9L0jDHQ



As one of the comments says: Venezuela has two choices, either stay with Maduro or sell their soul to the usa oil companies.
Last edited by Samkiud on Feb 28, 2015, 9:18:22 PM
From what i gather about the crisis:
-95% of revenue is generated through oil exports which are currently at low prices
-the country has never developed food production, relying on imports to feed the populace
-'oppression' of the populace through police shootings at riots equaling a total of 3 dead over the last year, and the arrest of the leader of the rebellion

First up, 3 dead at the hands of the police is like a typical friday night between 6pm and 9 pm in the USA. You dont hear about it because police records are confidential and anti-police/government news stories are largely suppressed in our supposed 'free press'.

The president of venezuela has been traveling around the world trying to secure aid and trade with little success. Thats not the mark of evil oppressor whom doesnt care.

It seems to me the people need to start some farms, not plot a revolution with no thought as to its repercussions. But i guess its easier to hate than create. I wonder what side the news in venezuela is on. Some anti government propaganda would explain why people are so riled up.

But as iv said before, i know very little about the situation. You could live in venezuela and still not really know. That is the power of the mass media.

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The hallmark of a well-designed political system is power preying more upon itself, and less upon the powerless. It is the only efficient way to deal with the problem.
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Last edited by ScrotieMcB on Feb 28, 2015, 11:09:32 PM
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SkyCore wrote:
The president of venezuela has been traveling around the world trying to secure aid and trade with little success. Thats not the mark of evil oppressor whom doesnt care.

The current president of Venezuela is a bus driver, he has not study in political and economy matters. And you know the economy of your country is well screwed, and the management of your government is inefficient, when you have to travel to others countries to ask for money.

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SkyCore wrote:
i know very little about the situation. You could live in venezuela and still not really know. That is the power of the mass media.

Yes, unfortunately you know very little. Living in the country is enough to know the reality. For example, what would tell to someone who has lost their loved ones because of the shortage of medicine the country suffers? "Everything is OK." "You live in Venezuela and still not really know what happened there". "This is just the result of the power of the mass media". Hell no.

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SkyCore wrote:
But i guess its easier to hate than create. I wonder what side the news in venezuela is on. Some anti government propaganda would explain why people are so riled up.

If we're going to talk about mass media. All the local and domestic medias here are under the control of the government. Two of the iconic TV channels in Venezuela (RCTV and Globovision) were "bought" by the government for showing some truths in their press that were not convenient for the government, and the rest ones are censored, because showing some facts only "provoke hates and violence", according to the government. By the other hand, you won't see absolutely any form of media where the opposition talks. The only way to get known of things here is through the Venezuelan trending topics on Twitter, as pathetic as it may sound. But no, there's not anti-government propaganda in this country. The government don't allow it.

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SkyCore wrote:
It seems to me the people need to start some farms, not plot a revolution with no thought as to its repercussions.

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SkyCore wrote:
-the country has never developed food production, relying on imports to feed the populace

Oh dear, we have many companies that develop food products. Like, a lot. But sadly, efficiently maintaining a company to stock a whole country requires USD, and right now the country suffers the major inflation in the Americas. Besides, from 2002 to 2012 the Chávez government has taken over 1168 foreign and domestic companies, because of his ambition to nationalize everything in the name of socialism, and his philosophy against any form of capitalism and "oligarchic bourgeoisie" (as he used to said) and else, but what happened to those companies? 80% of those are not producing (needless expropriation). So setting up a company and start "farming" is not an option.

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SkyCore wrote:
-'oppression' of the populace through police shootings at riots equaling a total of 3 dead over the last year, and the arrest of the leader of the rebellion

You missed the part I said the videos are outdated. The amount of dead by the hands of the national guard and police in the protest has risen to 44, and 5285 injuries, since the last year (up to this date).
Last edited by Samkiud on Feb 28, 2015, 11:12:31 PM

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