ppl will never be happy.

my post title is harsh and couldn't think of something witty to use to explain my reasoning.

either its a nerf they think that needs to be done, because of a mechanic or they feel its op or that the community complains about it being and want it nerfed.

GGG is trying to find a balance. they have explained that there a small company and yes they use us as testers.

yes we might not all agree what they change is great or bad or what should be changed. after all its there game. People make builds and most will like it or will hate it.

Sometimes builds do become over powered and people say well its GGG fault for not seeing it coming. but they cannot predict everything. if they make an error and need to change or most call it nerfing then that is what they see is needed.

since the beginning of this game skills have changed either, because it was over powered or under powered and changes to the tree was made and it caused skills to be increased in damage and people complained it was over powered.

no matter the case of why a skill becomes over powered GGG can't predict everything. everyone thinks differently and there is more people playing publicly then in alpha to test everything and not everyone can just predict what will happen until it happens.

if a build gets to popular or to powerful then sometimes it gets nerfed, but people argue why not just take other skills up. idk the answer to that, but there trying to get more stuff put into this game trying to make it an awesome game, but at a good pace and not just rushing it. yet sometimes mistakes are made and people get mad. builds get that way, because people figure things out that GGG may not see coming. it is not there fault.

like recently people are complaining about prolif builds. last year not many people really complained. yes fire arrow and some builds that used prolif to help make them over powered were adjusted, but like crit builds not just with spectral throw or some over powered builds out there, but most people only used crit builds, because they worked and it helped a lot of builds be successful.

when Chris said with one of the big changes to crit with tree multiplier or with the gem. people hated or liked it, because people were complaining crit was to strong, so they wanted to make it a way possible for you to get away from crit and lean towards otherways of making builds. now prolif builds are to strong and people complain about it or they like it.

not everyone will be happy and not everyone will be pissed off with the changes. yes changes to sometimes hurt builds in a big way, but GGG usually tries to find a balance and to help fix it or they sometimes end up killing the build all together.

GGG is trying to find a way to balance them even if most are not happy with them and even if most are to blind to see it. it's there game and trying to make it fun and what they want to get people to play a game they want to make. it takes time.

afterall its just a game. yes most of the people who can spend 24/7 on this game will get mad, because they say there time was wasted, but there trying to fix the problems before they become to much of a problem. just like the last patch the GM made a good point, but people got mad, because of a build got nerfed, but then if it got to popular and everybody used it. then it would of came to the point of people complaining about it being op and to powerful.

i just dont know anymore.

end of rant by phish.
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Last edited by Phish on Feb 27, 2015, 6:10:55 PM
Agreed.

People need to stop throwing tantrums over things that obviously received nerfs for a proper reason. Its not like nerfs are a new thing here. On some level people must have expected this.

GGG is good at what they do but they won't always be able to predict what the community will build. They were made aware of a situation and did what they felt they had to do.

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Sometimes builds do become over powered and people say well its GGG fault for not seeing it coming.

What is wrong with many OP Builds? Plowing trough content with different builds is a core experience of any game. Choose your own OP Build from dozens. But if you don't have enough content - like this game do, you have a problem. Thats because it's forbidden to plow with any build - except "mirrored" ones.
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SuperDumbo wrote:
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Sometimes builds do become over powered and people say well its GGG fault for not seeing it coming.

What is wrong with many OP Builds? Plowing trough content with different builds is a core experience of any game. Choose your own OP Build from dozens. But if you don't have enough content - like this game do, you have a problem. Thats because it's forbidden to plow with any build - except "mirrored" ones.

OP: Over Powered.

The over is the important bit there.
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i dont care that they nerf some numbers i dislike that they destroy whole setups to the point of not playable anymore

i used to play a ci gr vp powercharger got a 6l volls for 8ex in onslaught a cheap 10c volls devotion and a 40c shavs ring

problem with the setup was it had no room for error the mana spend had to return in an instant to be perpetual and to have 100% ic uptime this was in a time in which dicipline and grace had flat mana reserve

man my powercharger got fucked so hard

discipline became 60% reserve
vaal pact is a big joke now
grace/ir wasnt viable anymore
and the mana management is nonexistent

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Last edited by ventiman on Feb 28, 2015, 6:00:27 PM
I think the only way to stop constantly pissing off their player base, would be to make the map system 1) account bound 2) going far beyond map lvl. 100 or 1000 if you will.

They would constantly buffing instead of nerfing things. Players today quit because their chars and builds become weaker and weaker. This is stupid way to play games. Any game, not only PoE.
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taylorfest wrote:
Agreed.

People need to stop throwing tantrums over things that obviously received nerfs for a proper reason. Its not like nerfs are a new thing here. On some level people must have expected this.

GGG is good at what they do but they won't always be able to predict what the community will build. They were made aware of a situation and did what they felt they had to do.



No, no. They are nerfing stuff because they want to punish players, and to "keel the gaem".
No good reasons for the balance of the content (and thus more choices to be taken), has ever been given, to like every patch notes. It is only because they are evil, and want us to suffer.
Or maybe?...

Some people seem to not understand, that to balance things up you can either nerf one thing, or buff ALL the others. What do you think is easier? 10 things to consider. 1 is OP. Buff 9 others (and probably mess that up terribly, because there are so many thing to go wrong), so people won't Q__Q their eyes out, because they can't "have fun anymore" (read, hold one button, and everything dies)? Or nerf one, and maybe finally get rid of the problem? (and ignore the constant Q__Q)?
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