Why self-found needs its own league

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Icholas wrote:

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KZA wrote:

I enjoy HC PKing because its very competetive and challenging with high stakes

I have nothing to add except a lol at that.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Self-found does not need its own league. It would be nice if it had its own ladder, so players who want to compete under the playstyle can do so against other like-minded players.

However, it is not as simple as "if this character trades, it loses self-found." Usually players have traded items in their stash, so characters with the label shouldn't be able to access it - either no stash or a separate one. I think I'd actually prefer to see the "no stash" version since it's harder. :3

There would also be the question of partying. It might be considered unfair to have a non-SF player rush you, even if no items change hands. Or it might be considered fair game. Not sure.

In no instance should self-found players be afforded any advantage or "compensation" for their choice of playstyle. It should be about competition.

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mrpetrov wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Self-found does not need its own league. It would be nice if it had its own ladder, so players who want to compete under the playstyle can do so against other like-minded players.

However, it is not as simple as "if this character trades, it loses self-found." Usually players have traded items in their stash, so characters with the label shouldn't be able to access it - either no stash or a separate one. I think I'd actually prefer to see the "no stash" version since it's harder. :3

There would also be the question of partying. It might be considered unfair to have a non-SF player rush you, even if no items change hands. Or it might be considered fair game. Not sure.

In no instance should self-found players be afforded any advantage or "compensation" for their choice of playstyle. It should be about competition.

My only comment is that it's important that this tag isn't abusable. For example, trading by dropping items on the ground at opposite ends of the screen - the way we did it in closed beta before trade window existed...

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KZA wrote:

how about my video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGizBMfFPQk

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KZA wrote:

This is the single most competitive actionRPG on the market. That said, those of us who prefer self-found are in direct competition with those who choose to trade. Thus our only options currently available are:

-Don't trade and be at a major disadvantage competitively
-Trade and lose out on the satisfaction of self-found

An optional self-found league would allow for competition AND self-found satisfaction.