Double IIR prefix/suffix rule

ok, from time to time ive seen items (like MF rings) that obviously have the the same prefix/suffix of the same type (50% MF) combined into 1 stat. However (and yes ive checked before asking this, sorry if I missed it) what exactly does this mean when your crafting it? can it ONLY have 5 stats or does the prefix/suffix combine into 1 stat and in theory you can have 7. If the prefix and suffix do combine which would it be? 1 prefix or 1 suffix? is there any way yet to tell if someone had like a 45 ring which of the prefix or suffix was the higher roll, or is it still a mystery?
Rare item has "space" for 6 affixes (3 prefixes, 3 suffixes).

You're talking about items that have IIR rolled as prefix and suffix, I assume? That means they use 2 affixes and there's space for 4 more, they don't combine into 1 affix even if they make only 1 row of text.

If someone has a ring with 45 IIR it has the highest IIR roll as prefix and suffix. But if it has, for example 34, there's no way to tell what the suffix roll is and what the prefix is. Why would you need to know this anyway?
hey,

max prefix for iir is 24 or 26,
meanwhile the max suffix is either 24 or 26.

one is 24 the other is 26. the grand total of a perfect
double roll is 50.

they are two different mods, they count as two.

for ex: you alt a blue item, recieving 42 IIR as the
only resultant mod... you apply an aug and it doesnt work.

there are other situations where mods add together and
mask the origins a bit... cant think of any, IIR is the
best example.
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Quiex__VZ wrote:
a) can it ONLY have 5 stats or does the prefix/suffix combine into 1 stat and in theory you can have 7.
b) If the prefix and suffix do combine which would it be? 1 prefix or 1 suffix?
c) is there any way yet to tell if someone had like a 45 ring which of the prefix or suffix was the higher roll, or is it still a mystery?


A) Technically, it has six stats. For display purposes, the prefix and suffix combine to show just "item rarity" instead of "item rarity (prefix)" and "item rarity (suffix). It will appear as though it has 5 affixes, but in reality it has six.

And the rule is: 3 prefixes, 3 suffixes. That's it. There is no way to actually have a 7-affix item. (Example later however about how an item can APPEAR to have more affixes).

There will be occasions when items will APPEAR to have less or more than 6 affixes, but you'll notice by putting it into a crafting bench that it will tell you the item can no longer have additional mods.

The IIR roll is an example of an item appearing to have five stats, but actually having six. For example:

Sapphire Ring
-----
55 maximum life (prefix)
7-12 phys damage (prefix)
23% fire resistance (suffix)
10 dexterity (suffix)
45% item rarity (prefix AND suffix, with one roll being 23 the other being 22).

How the ring would actually look if you could see IIR affixes separately

Sapphire Ring
-----
55 maximum life
7-12 phys damage
23% item rarity
23% fire resistance
10 dexterity
22% item rarity

Yep, six stat rule =)



So, to answer your question the way you phrased it: in the example provided, the item has six total affixes, adhering to the three prefix and three suffix limit, therefore it is capped at five "stats".

Which answers:

B) They don't combine, but just APPEAR to. When in fact, they are two separate affixes.

Similarly, example of an item APPEARING to have 7 affixes


Zodiac Leather
------------
+100 flat evasion (prefix)
30% evasion rating (prefix)
80 life (prefix)
Fire resistance (suffix)
Cold resistance (suffix)
Lightning resistance (suffix)
15% stun recovery (shwat?)

Here, the 30% evasion rating is actually a HYBRID roll
-- 30% evasion
-- 15% stun recovery

So while the item APPEARS to have 7 affixes, it actually only has six, since the hybrid is one affix.

actual affix values here for the hybrid are probably not accurate, pulled out of my ass to illustrate how it works


C) There's no way to tell. You could have a 36% IIR roll that is equally distributed at 18% prefix and 18% suffix, OR it could be a perfect suffix roll of 26% but a crap prefix roll of 10%. All you can know for certain is if the IIR value exceeds 26%, you have DEFINITELY rolled BOTH prefix and suffix.
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
Last edited by Serleth on Feb 14, 2015, 5:24:28 AM

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