1.3 Budget 2h Uber killer, the hybrid tryndamere cyclone build, Deathless kill with 5L belly!

Just killed uber with the 5l belly, and it was deathless! I used the same gear as I did for the tabula run. I am pretty happy about this. The extra 800 life seems to be a lot better than having a 6 link. I'll get around to uploading a video later


Edit : Oops posted on wrong account

Just uploaded the video and I posted it in the OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iG4PUzTvh0&feature=youtu.be

It's been 13 uber kills in total that I've done now, I've had 6 garb drops, 6 masks, one axe. It's been a lot of fun, and I think I've improved in the last few runs compared to the earlier ones, 3 of my last 4 runs have been deathless.

I think I will most likely upload another video on how to potentially deal with the vaals without a vaal IC.

But apart from that, I think I'm done with this build for now, atleast until next temp league. Or maybe if they announce any nerfs that has an impact on this build. It's possible that enduring cry won't work with spell echo next league, and if this is the case, it will make the vaal fight a little trickier as we'll need a way to generate endurance charges fast, but I think we can overcome that.

The nerf doesn't have much of an impact on the trio and atziri fight, for atziri fight I wouldn't be able to chain vaal immortal calls like I did in the 5l belly fight, so I'd have to take it slower. We need full endurance charges for when we come out of vaal ic, so if we just EC the clones in the split phase for 6 charges before killing them ( would take 12 seconds ), then that's probably a good work around

I'm going to respec my character into something else as I've got another idea on how to kill uber, should cost around the same but not need the second chest and the gems in it, and shouldn't need the vaal ic's.

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Garmon123 wrote:

I'm going to respec my character into something else as I've got another idea on how to kill uber, should cost around the same but not need the second chest and the gems in it, and shouldn't need the vaal ic's.

WOW! I'm teased! Can't wait to see that!

can you explain?

immortal call lvl 20? enduring cry lvl 20*? manually cast?

or cast when damage taken?

can you detail plz

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mirko92 wrote:

can you explain?

immortal call lvl 20? enduring cry lvl 20*? manually cast?

or cast when damage taken?

can you detail plz

I use them both manually, being in full control of your endurance charges, and controlling when your IC is used is incredibly important, otherwise you might get one shot by the trash or trio

Hi Garmon,
Great stuff I must say. Thumbs up. So after seeing your idea, I have decided to make a DW crit sword char with the same vaal immortal call strategy. I think it should work pretty well. Below is the link to my tree. What are your thoughts? Anyway i could improve my tree?

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAFey5HcqQ6UaK8L02R36E2b6nZU2bLQAGFfZieVuv3Q0s6crTGbRKfeOfh3ZnoPzFBiBYdXSgd9dW-v_eJP3nVFFHMHx_K02SI_aNfQaiF9xW6J-C4JUS4WEh4uoB3J_LpzAB5zboZKMaVfxLFE0Ykbyf2L01krXyqW54Dc8yWW1fmG6qmG_cI5J99zLqGPjrFHEOPDpS5c_Pfnaskc677YIH2Xwt0p8-WfOsqnKpkFUaOMAaJy8D7jOHHb48LcT2Y3BgQb6KCLE__OhmgToDAH6aG6oQ8PJaYxc=

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rmangesh_spawn wrote:

Hi Garmon,
Great stuff I must say. Thumbs up. So after seeing your idea, I have decided to make a DW crit sword char with the same vaal immortal call strategy. I think it should work pretty well. Below is the link to my tree. What are your thoughts? Anyway i could improve my tree?

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAFey5HcqQ6UaK8L02R36E2b6nZU2bLQAGFfZieVuv3Q0s6crTGbRKfeOfh3ZnoPzFBiBYdXSgd9dW-v_eJP3nVFFHMHx_K02SI_aNfQaiF9xW6J-C4JUS4WEh4uoB3J_LpzAB5zboZKMaVfxLFE0Ykbyf2L01krXyqW54Dc8yWW1fmG6qmG_cI5J99zLqGPjrFHEOPDpS5c_Pfnaskc677YIH2Xwt0p8-WfOsqnKpkFUaOMAaJy8D7jOHHb48LcT2Y3BgQb6KCLE__OhmgToDAH6aG6oQ8PJaYxc=

It looks good for the most part, I've never used anything other than 2H and facebreakers so I've not really thought about how your build should look like, so the only advice I can offer is the stuff that screams at me

Things to consider :

You are spending 5 points on getting the bottom endurance charge, 3 seconds of IC isn't worth 5 points.

Your endurance charges will also expire two seconds before mine, which can be a big deal at times considering you can't EC all the time, and your EC will sometimes bug out if you use it as soon as it comes off cooldown. Also remember that when Atziri goes from her main phase to split phase, this takes a few seconds. Practice makes perfect but I would consider a Doedre's elixir, and just use it as a panic button to reset your endurance charge duration. Having a doedre's elixir isn't such a huge deal for this build as you pretty much need to avoid all her spells in her main form anyway, and you don't use flasks during split phase due to vaal IC, so it might be a good fix.

You can potentially drop unwavering stance, as you only need it for the split phase, and then swap in the unwavering stance boots for split phase, this would take some practice to get used to but I think it would be fine. Dropping it lets you take the scion wheel to connect to the rest of the tree, you would save 4 points and get the same amount of life, and you could take ondar's guile if you have any evasion, just throwing this out there as an option

Also, what do you want out of vaal IC? Skyion's only purpose for vaal ic is to survive the split phase, so he doesn't need long vaal IC's at all, while I on the other hand commit more resources to having much longer vaal IC's, which lets me burn her right down to another split phase unless she starts healing phase as the first thing. So you could save more passives if you want to go for Skyion's approach.

Also you should consider being able to shock/ignite it's good for the instance apart from uber's main phase

Quick edit I made to your tree

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAFey5HcqQ6UaK8L02R36E2b6nZU2bLQAGFfZieVuv3Q0s6crTGbRKfeOfh3ZnoPzFBiBYdXSgd9dW-v_eJP3nVFFHMHx_K02SI_aNfQaiF9xW6J-C4JUB3J_LpzAB5zbo_EsUTRiRvJ_YvTWStfKpbngNzzJZbV-YbqqYb9wjkn33MuoY-OsUcQ48OlLlz89-dqyRzrvtLdKfPlnzrKpyqZBVGjjAGicvA-4zhx2-PC3E9mNwYEG-igixP_zoZoE6AwB-mhuqEPDyWmMXgpvsOFivogDhc-0g


I'm sure there's other ways to improve it further and that I have missed something

Hey Garmon thanks for the reply buddy :)
Ok so I am planning to use 1 Vaal IC always in my setup to do map bosses like 78 map dominus etc.
5 points for 3 sec additional time.. hmm thats worth giving a thought. Sure ill skip an endurance charge and see how well i can melt bosses with 6 EC .if its enough then great :)
Also i dont need the "elementalist" node coz im gonna crit and i guess crit applies status ailments.
If I have high armour and I get ondars for leveling up, will it still be good?

Btw what is Skyion's build/playstyle could u link me a thread or something?
And could you also let me know your heavy strike full dps mode damage? coz im planning to use dual strike as a single target and it should have more dps I suppose.

Thanks again bro for your suggestions :)

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mangesh_spawn wrote:

Also i dont need the "elementalist" node coz im gonna crit and i guess crit applies status ailments.

For some reason I forgot this when writing the post

This is skyion's vaal ic version http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1208213

My heavy strike setup is in the tabula in the original post if you scroll down, I'd imagine that you'd want crit multiplier there. And yea I loved using vaal IC for dangerous bosses, it's pretty effective at that, and it's hilarious when in a party because they get confused

Hey thanks again Garmon :)
200k DPS on heavy strike that seems a lot!!!!!!!!
Ill progress on my build and will give you guyz an update :)