increasing amount of legacy items - unsportsmanlike

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DasName wrote:

Let's be realistic here, how many
-Shavs/Koams
where chanced and how many found before they patched it?

chanced:found
10:1
100:1


something like that?

so you're saying the chance to chance a unique was lowered, but how does that effect the way Pneuma corrected you in terms of mechanics? You seemed pretty confident.

Whether or not an item has a 1/1000 chance or a 1/3000 chance the mechanics still work the same way.

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DasName wrote:

Let's be realistic here, how many
-Shavs/Koams
where chanced and how many found before they patched it?

chanced:found
10:1
100:1


something like that?

so you're saying the chance to chance a unique was lowered, but how does that effect the way Pneuma corrected you in terms of mechanics? You seemed pretty confident.

Whether or not an item has a 1/1000 chance or a 1/3000 chance the mechanics still work the same way.

read what he wrote:

Before Infernal Mantle was added, rare used to go from [751-998].

vs
now it is:

[991-998] is Infernal Mantle, and
[999-1000] is Shav's.

See the difference? Ask yourself why did we get MORE koams back then despite the lower change?

Do not forget, this thread is about how legacy items dropped/ were created and how they drop now/are created and not about the Infernal Mantle.
It was different back then.

The point is that before Infernal:

999-1000 = Shavs

And after:

999-1000 = Shavs.

See the [lack of] difference?

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DasName wrote:

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So what we learn from this is that chancing mechanics are different than drop mechanics when you add a second item to the base type?

The chance of Shavs is still the same though right? The only difference created is that you don't get to scour unique items.

(not talking about before chance change vs after, talking mechanically)

I was assuming we were talking about mechanics and not a then vs now thing

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Antnee wrote:

The point is that before Infernal:

999-1000 = Shavs

And after:

999-1000 = Shavs.

See the [lack of] difference?

No, the point is before we got more Koams, now we get less.

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I was assuming we were talking about mechanics and not a then vs now thing

Well and i was assuming they were talking about reality, about how most godlike legacy items were created back then. One does not simply find a Koam without creating a few more on the path. At least back then .

That's why i hate arguments like "But we earned those uniques back then, we worked hard for it". No you didn't. You basicly got freeloot.

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ziggro wrote:

Not a single GGG comment about legacys in any of the threads, what happened to communicate to the player base? like it was in CB and OB

PLAYER WHAT?

For GGG only exists the streamer, and then, reddit.

We are the unnecessary crap class, your support with packs or cosmetics is worthless, the fansites with tons of info and help for new players is worthless, this forum and the suggestions subforum is worthless (hi reddit!). And legacies existence is, of course, worthless for GGG cause they have no idea about balance, so they fix the game creating legacies instead make a global reroll to all the affected items.

As a legit comparision, Riot began as the same little group with the same F2P philosophy just for players but they did it GREAT, GGG goes totally in wrong way: PoE just for a few people.

So, wait... what?

Your point is that Kaoms were easier to chance "back then" [citation still needed], so it's unfair that they exist in their un-nerfed state now?

Petty

if legacy items piss people off so much why are you playing in legacy leagues?!?!

[citation]
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/340794


I don't care if they exist in their un-nerfed state or not. I would prefere no legacy items at all however i don't play standard.
However i do care about the facts.

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Charanjaydemyr wrote:

Got a solution?

A CLEANSING!

in all seriousness, for pve this is a non issue as most new league have a mechanic that makes it shit loot ( case in point torment loot piniata ghosts)

but it is an issue in pvp when one guy has a 1000% face breaker and the other guy does not.

in which case perhaps there should be some way to check a mod against the current max and bar it from pvp...

legacy items in pvp is actually why i find the whole idea of standard being the setting for pvp rather strange.

also arent kaoms alot cheaper these days on account that most rf builds just use a 100 life str armor or belly of the beast or carcass jack?


legacy kaoms back in the day were 30 exa , i saw one a few weeks ago going for 6 exa. Id say 6 is easier to get than 30