Reduced Mana lvl 21 doing same effect as lvl 20
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Hello
just bought a Reduced mana lvl 21 to use at my helmet linked to 2 auras + herald at lvl 20 I have 632 of 710 mana reserved (78 left) with the lvl 21, even removing the helmet, re-socketing the gems (just in case) I have the same 632 mana reserved (out of 710, and 78 left) Any explanation ? Bug ? WTS - IRL Superior Determination = PRICELESS
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yeah its a noobtrap has something to do with rounding
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hows it ? mana multiplier differs from 71% to 70% that should be applied at the reserved mana % of each aura, 60% for grace and hatred, 25% for herald of ash Think that even if the 70% of 60% (-8% from passive) would result in a number higher than 1 (mana) point I was expecting to have 1% mana reserved for each aura, 3% less total, 21 points out of 710 off free mana to be used can someone explain how it comes to 0 ? WTS - IRL Superior Determination = PRICELESS
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0.71 * 0.92 * 0.6 = 0.3919, rounds to 39%
0.71 * 0.92 * 0.25 = 0.1633, rounds to 16% 0.70 * 0.92 * 0.6 = 0.3864, rounds to 39% 0.70 * 0.92 * 0.25 = 0.161, rounds to 16% This is why you see no change. Game rounds to nearest % for these calculations. Theorycrafter/Build Creator for PORTAL guild
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You can see a difference if you pick up all the mana reserve reduction nodes on tree, put your level 21 reduced mana in a +1 gem 4L item, with level 20 blood magic, and 2 60% auras, you can see that you will be able to cast both auras on life. The same can't be done on a lvl 20 reduced mana.
(also works the other way if you have a lvl 20 bm and lvl 21 bm) Green_honey_boo_boo is my favourite south park character!
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" However, none of that reflects how the game actually works. :P First off: Path of Exile basically always rounds down. Increased/Reduced/More/Less applies to the Base Reserve, which already factors in Supports. As such, Passives and gear bonuses do not matter when determining RM's effect. BM/Empower Supports do. This is how Reduced Mana at level 20/21/22 applies to 60/40/25% Reserved, no other Supports: 60 * 0.71 = 42.6, rounds to 42% Reserved 60 * 0.70 = 42% Reserved 60 * 0.69 = 41.4, rounds to 41% Reserved 40 * 0.71 = 28.4, rounds to 28% Reserved 40 * 0.70 = 28% Reserved 40 * 0.69 = 27.6, rounds to 27% Reserved 25 * 0.71 = 17.75, rounds to 17% Reserved 25 * 0.70 = 17.5, rounds to 17% Reserved 25 * 0.69 = 17.25, rounds to 17% Reserved A level 21 RM never does anything under normal circumstances. A BM Gem mixes things up a bunch, but you can probably figure that out for yourselves. :P The 8% Reduced Reserve then applies as follows: 42 * 0.08 = 3.36, rounds to 3 42 - 3 = 39% final Reserve Calculate the reduction, round down, subtract. Last edited by Vipermagi on Oct 1, 2014, 7:23:20 AM
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I think you need this:
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Question is: Why the hell is the Reduction % Integer !?!?
Could be like, mana reduction = 0.3919% or 0.3864%, and the only mandatory integer would be the Mana or Life points rounded down think it would be more "fair" WTS - IRL Superior Determination = PRICELESS
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Meh, I was leveling 6 reduced mana gems at once to vaal them. Already tried 7 level 20's with no luck.
Guess I'll stop with the next 6:). Although I'm disappointed lvl 21 brings no difference, I am glad someone else found out so I can save some time. |
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" Quoted from 1.2 patch notes. For 60+40+25 (your case I think): before 1.2: 60*0.71+40*0.71+25*0.71 ~= 43+29+18 = 90% reserved after 1.2: 125*0.71=88.75 rounded up to 89% 125*0.70=87.5 rounded up to 88% If my understanding of the patch notes is correct, there should be a difference in mana reserved. So, where am I wrong? |
