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" Derpey wrote: But are you using it? It's the same with Iron Maiden in D2, nobody really used it (in exception of the broken GhostSin in PvP), but the mobs in Chaos Sactuary tossed that at you? Instantly died if melee. Of course not, but I felt like I should mention that the most useless skill available can get you killed. I mean Punishment is so bad I had even forgotten about it's existence. No mobs use it either the only way to get it on you is a Hexing Shrine (and perhaps Hexfont mod?). Last edited by TGeorge on Sep 28, 2014, 8:51:38 AM	Posted by TGeorge on Sep 28, 2014, 8:50:53 AM Quote this Post
" JahIthBer89 wrote: Isn't hegemony doing a crazy sweep build with his new staff? Yes, congratulation! He made an Unique around a specific Skill and doing WELL with it! Ofc it would be good, but that's because of an UNIQUE, and then we get back to the topic about GGG slowly making Uniques way too strong, and best in slot material. Participated in the working of the Dyadus Avatar of Fire Templar: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/896505 Last edited by Derpey on Sep 28, 2014, 8:53:40 AM	Posted by Derpey on Sep 28, 2014, 8:53:27 AM Quote this Post
" Charan wrote: I wouldn't underestimate the value of instant, unsupported AoE. In fact, I don't. Every support slot counts. Cleave is not terrible. Maybe not optimal once you're throwing 5-6L around, but not terrible. I consider it optimal.. I mean I compared it to dual strike + melee splash and found cleave outright better for both single target(with conc) or even if I replaced conc with AoE to clear groups. Comparisons done with a 6 link.	Posted by kasub on Sep 28, 2014, 9:00:39 AM Quote this Post
Seem like u guy forgot : -Firestorm -Lighting Nova -Stormcall -And almost all the trap except fire trap. Last edited by BlueJasminez on Sep 28, 2014, 9:09:13 AM	Posted by BlueJasminez on Sep 28, 2014, 9:06:42 AM Quote this Post
" BlueJasminez wrote: Seem like u guy forgot firestorm. Firestorm is alright though, not sure what you talk about. Participated in the working of the Dyadus Avatar of Fire Templar: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/896505	Posted by Derpey on Sep 28, 2014, 9:08:27 AM Quote this Post
" Firestorm is alright though, not sure what you talk about. I don't think ppl consider using it when they look at Flame Blast. It just beat the shit out of FS and barely seen any ppl or any build use it. Even before the cold buff almost nobody used it.	Posted by BlueJasminez on Sep 28, 2014, 9:11:47 AM Quote this Post
" BlueJasminez wrote: " Firestorm is alright though, not sure what you talk about. I don't think ppl consider using it when they look at Flame Blast. It just beat the shit out of FS and barely seen any ppl or any build use it. Even before the cold buff almost nobody used it. Well there's several reasons: - FPS drop skill. People wants to do Spell Echo / Faster Casting. - Flameblast flat out is better than Firestorm, you're correct. Same issue with Cleave vs. Reave example I made before. It's an alright Skill, Flameblast just needs a tone down. Also Firestorm's Quality should be changed, and the Duration from its Quality moved into its level up section. Participated in the working of the Dyadus Avatar of Fire Templar: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/896505	Posted by Derpey on Sep 28, 2014, 9:15:32 AM Quote this Post
Firestorm scales very differently from flameblast. It's an alright skill but its optimal use is really laggy and best for bosses. Last edited by kasub on Sep 28, 2014, 9:17:36 AM	Posted by kasub on Sep 28, 2014, 9:16:07 AM Quote this Post
" Derpey wrote: " BlueJasminez wrote: " Firestorm is alright though, not sure what you talk about. I don't think ppl consider using it when they look at Flame Blast. It just beat the shit out of FS and barely seen any ppl or any build use it. Even before the cold buff almost nobody used it. Well there's several reasons: - FPS drop skill. People wants to do Spell Echo / Faster Casting. - Flameblast flat out is better than Firestorm, you're correct. Same issue with Cleave vs. Reave example I made before. It's an alright Skill, Flameblast just needs a tone down. Also Firestorm's Quality should be changed, and the Duration from its Quality moved into its level up section. Wait why can't we just buff firestorm? Dys an sohm Rohs an kyn Sahl djahs afah Mah morn narr	Posted by Coconutdoggy on Sep 28, 2014, 9:16:18 AM Quote this Post
" terrex wrote: " kasub wrote: " terrex wrote: anything + splash > cleave or just anything... I disagree. Cleave is the best melee skill for DPS since it allows the use of dualwield + conc. I can only imagine the clear pace. The range of cleave with concentrated effect is 20(1-0.3) = 17 The range of q20 melee splash is 12(1 + 0.2) = 14.4 This message was delivered by GGG defence force.	Posted by mazul on Sep 28, 2014, 9:16:20 AM Quote this Post