Thorn Builds Possibility

''Thousand Teeth Temu shield , Bramblejack Chest and Tempest Shield''

There is no other usefull (good as ts or ttt shield) reflect or 'damage on block' item in game. There is no good item for spell/elm reflect.

Just some items and some gems but all low. I think thorn items/builds can be good. GGG gonna do something for that?

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There is no other reflect or 'damage on block' item in game.

Veil of the night, anvil, spiked shields(jaws of agony unique),punishment, thorn affixes.

Thorns does suck though. GGG should let it scale with physical/elemental passives instead of the current situation where nothing scales it. Could also buff affixes.

I agree. Thorn builds should be a viable possibility, scalable and all ...

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kasub wrote:

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There is no other reflect or 'damage on block' item in game.

Veil of the night, anvil, spiked shields(jaws of agony unique),punishment, thorn affixes.

Thorns does suck though. GGG should let it scale with physical/elemental passives instead of the current situation where nothing scales it. Could also buff affixes.

Okay, best thorn build atm:

-Thousand Teeth Shield (1000 damage on block to the attackers)
-The Anvil (225 damage on block to the attackers)
-Veil of The Night (1-200 lightning damage on block to the attackers)
-Tempest Shield (Lightning damage on block (200 to 700 or something))
-Bramblejack (%40 melee damage reflect) (this can be changed with other high armor chests)

Total reflect/thorn damage on gear is maximum 2k, maybe.
With punishment its 2k + 1k, maybe.

Thorn build seems impossible for endgame anyway.

Pretty sure someone did a thorns build based around tempest shield and max block, with shavs, it seemed to very nicely since tempest shield has a 6% crit base

You can also get additional 15% melee physical damage reflected from the tree (Wall of Thorns node between Ranger and Shadow area). Not that it helps much, but it's there.

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VictorDoom wrote:

Pretty sure someone did a thorns build based around tempest shield and max block, with shavs, it seemed to very nicely since tempest shield has a 6% crit base

Oh this can be helpfull; max block and good es/armor (like 6.5-7k es with a good armor rating) with crit chance is can be good. Are Ranger or duelist classes good for it? (ranger or duelist because build need iron reflexes) Can use ArcticArmour and maybe ElementalEquilibrium with a fire/cold skill. (like incinerate)

Tempest shield can be scaled with lightning damage, spell damage and supports. It's not that good though, even with shavs.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/465793

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Awarelol wrote:

Don't waste your time, guys. Even if you could get Tempest Shield to 1-shot white mobs (a stretch), your clear speed will still be beyond terrible. Very few mob types bee-line to you and attack immediately and rapidly. And the blue/rare mobs will take ages to kill.

I repeat, don't waste your time.

The most clever use of Tempest shield I've seen is attaching Curse on Hit to it with Enfeeble/Temp Chains, or even an offensive curse to help against bosses.

I always thought it was strange that they have a bunch of things in game that seem to support a thorns build, however such a thing is not even close to viable. I guess GGG don't like the idea of someone just standing there while enemies die.